for "prosperity"

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by scottw

I guess I don't share the fatalist view of this apparent dark date in our history....

"The President demanding the VP to defy the Constitution so he can stay in power."

if the VP does something unconstitutional...then he should be held accountable and if the president demands the VP do something unconstitutional, he should also be held accountable


"Many Republican members of Congress rallying around this otherwise lame duck President, who would be otherwise be leaving office in two weeks, to impede the succession of power. "

they have the right to rally around the president, if they do anything unconstitutional they should be held responsible...there is an article on NBC that points out that the democrats have set the precedent in all of the instances that they currently whine about


"Trump supporters rallying around the Capitol, some expected to be armed. "

Rallying around the Capitol is Constitutional, I don't know if being armed is legal there...I saw an ad from a new member of Congress stating she's planning to concealed carry during her time in Washington, seemed legit...if any of them do anything illegal or unconstitutional they should be held accountable...hopefully they will be more peaceful than the "peaceful protests" that we've enjoyed from the left over the past year with very little accountability


"Trump giving a speech in the morning and possibly joining his supporters. "

I believe this is perfectly Constitutional and legal....


"The leader of the Proud Boys arrested on weapons charges in DC and told to "stay away."

oh good...so they won't have to worry about him causing any trouble


"A threat over the air controller frequency said a plane was going to be flown into the Capitol tomorrow, likely while the Congress is assembled to read the votes from the electoral college. This to avenge the killing of Iranian General Soleimani exactly a year ago. "

Clearly trump's fault



"Kenosha Wisconsin likely to see rioting after no charges were brought against a police officer in a shooting last August."

why would they riot and whose fault is that? hopefully the rioters will be held accountable but we'll likely be told it's all perfectly justified


"And there is always the Georgia Senate elections today, with results possibly not being known until tomorrow. Only the control of the Senate and a continuation of a checks and balance within Congress at stake."

according to dementia joe...$2000 checks are at stake


"Any powder kegs I left out?"

I bet we could come up with a bunch but what is the point of fretting over things that have not and are unlikely to happen? I bet pete could come up with a bunch of potential "bombshells"


"Oh, maybe a stack of pardons to round out the afternoon?"

those could be fun....maybe he'll pardon hunter


it will be interesting to see how we define "prosperity" going forward....

I heard a left leaning commentator on tv recently state very emphatically...."science trumps freedom"....I found that an interesting statement, don't recall seeing anything in the Constitution regarding science superseding freedom

Are you happy now??????

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Are you happy now??????

Oh trust me Scott is extremely happy right now, like Trump he is getting a kick out of a Trump thug sitting at Nancy's desk in the capitol building.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Oh trust me Scott is extremely happy right now, like Trump he is getting a kick out of a Trump thug sitting at Nancy's desk in the capitol building.

Does he have that giant gavel she likes to wave around?
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

Does he have that giant gavel she likes to wave around?
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I know it's a tough day, Trump going out, Moscow Mitch becoming a minority leader, probably time for a stiff drink.

[nightfighter]

Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol after being revved up by the sitting President.... His taped comments were nothing but a half baked excuse to answer the call for peaceful end to the riot. In my view, you support Trump, the man who incited the events of today, you are choosing against our democracy. Period. This is all on him. You really want to get in that boat? You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol after being revved up by the sitting President.... His taped comments were nothing but a half baked excuse to answer the call for peaceful end to the riot. In my view, you support Trump, the man who incited the events of today, you are choosing against our democracy. Period. This is all on him. You really want to get in that boat? You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.

Sadly there are those that will hang on to the railing as the ship sinks.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.

According to Biden they are the “poor boys”. Which sounds a bit more amusing
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[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by scottw

According to Biden they are the “poor boys”. Which sounds a bit more amusing
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You have resorted to being nothing more than a troll.... I wish you an earned time out from this forum in the near future.... Just my point of view.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

You have resorted to being nothing more than a troll.... I wish you an earned time out from this forum in the near future.... Just my point of view.

He is a putz!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

He is a putz!

Thanks for the ❤️
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[scottw]

. I wish you an earned time out from this forum in the near future.... Just my point of view.[/QUOTE]

For what?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

You have resorted to being nothing more than a troll.... I wish you an earned time out from this forum in the near future.... Just my point of view.

He's been that way for a while. Sad
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

He's been that way for a while. Sad
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Feel better?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol after being revved up by the sitting President.... His taped comments were nothing but a half baked excuse to answer the call for peaceful end to the riot. In my view, you support Trump, the man who incited the events of today, you are choosing against our democracy. Period. This is all on him. You really want to get in that boat? You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.

It's too bad that many Republicans support Trump over the Republican party and for what it used to stand for. And in some ways they support him more than they support the Constitution and the country.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.

can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by scottw

can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules

Never pictured Ross as a drama queen but I guess this is part of cancel culture.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules

What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.
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[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by scottw

can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.
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I think some of what Scott says here is worth considering. Yes, Pete, it was on a totally different scale, but both "protests" resulted in illegal and criminal activity causing loss and death. After reviewing some tape of comments made by Kamala, Pelosi, and other Dems, I think we can put their allegiance directly in the ANTIFA and BLM fold...(I wonder if Kamala is going to solicit/pay bail for anyone who was arrested for breaching the Capitol...) It was put together by Fox, but it was compelling. I try to view both sides equally. Flipping from CNN to Fox can make my head spin a little too fast though. Takes great effort to discern the fact and context from the emotional, condescending agenda of both channels.

[Got Stripers]

Like I said earlier, peaceful protest is our right, I don’t care what the cause is your exercising your freedom of speech in, criminal activity doesn’t know left from right only right and illegal. Those that looted and burned in BLM protests are criminals as are all that broke into the capital building and assaulted capital police and vandalized the building. In both examples, those crossing the line detract from the message the majority are trying to send, you then become a band of thugs.

I think there is a big difference between supporting a movement and inciting the riot, which is exactly what Trump, Jared and Rudy did, unless English isn’t your primary language.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Flipping from CNN to Fox can make my head spin a little too fast though. Takes great effort to discern the fact and context from the emotional, condescending agenda of both channels.

I just watched 30 seconds of Fox broadcast. They were showing this quote about the capitol that some nut wrote for the NY Post

"It has bestowed the great gift of the moral high ground on the most undeserving people in the world: Joe Biden and the left.

They now have a free pass to persecute their ideological enemies while enacting their pet cultural Marxist projects and changing this country irrevocably for the worst."

Katie Pavlich, who apparently is a fox commentator, was asked what she thought "Most of that is true, but I disagree that they have a free pass."

So she agrees that the most undeserving people in the world are Joe Biden and the left. She believes they will persecute "their ideological enemies" (which is greatly ironic given the current administration that she almost certainly supports). She agrees with making a parallel between Biden's agenda and Marxism. If 80% of nutters are getting their info from these sources or worse, it clearly explains where we are. We will never be a functioning society when this is the rhetoric that a substantial and powerful (see gerrymandering and electoral college) portion of the country hears and believes.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.

They tried to overthrow the government of the US? Can you explain how they would have been able to accomplish that?

On the other hand, you're very comfortable in overthrowing a duly elected President. In fact you tried your damnedest to help that cause. And, rather than rationally show with actual proof that such a thing should be done, you constantly lied, misrepresented, resorted to innuendo, conjecture, conspiracy theories and incessantly spewed divisive hate--the kind that was being peddled by the radical Dems and their complicit media.

It was exactly the hateful divisiveness that led to what happened in the capitol. Your kind of malevolence is part of the reason we are at the point of another sort of civil war and possible break up of this nation.

[scottw]

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They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight.

Originally Posted by detbuch

They tried to overthrow the government of the US?

this is correct...unarmed and wearing halloween costumes...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules

A DC Police Dept officer says off-duty police officers and members of the military, who were among the rioters, flashed their badges and I.D. cards as they attempted to overrun the US Capitol.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

A DC Police Dept officer says off-duty police officers and members of the military, who were among the rioters, flashed their badges and I.D. cards as they attempted to overrun the US Capitol.

Which says what, about who? Except those individuals. Can we assume you wouldn't call 911 if, say, someone stole your copy of Chairman Maos Little Red Book?