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03-17-2008, 09:33 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Warning About Sealers!
I am always hesitant to recommend boiled linseed oil and mineral spirits to some of the new builders here only because if they do not know what they are doing, or gloss over our warnings.....they could easily burn their homes down. It has almost happened to a couple of folks on here! So to those of you who are new to this and you try this method of sealing.......HEED THIS WARNING!
DISPOSE OF ALL OIL SOAKED RAGS PROPERLY AND DO NOT LEAVE THEM LAYING AROUND AS THEY COULD SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST AND CAUSE A FIRE! DISPOSE OF THEM IN A COVERED 1 GALLON PAINT CAN WITH SOME WATER IN IT!
I just don't want to see anyone get hurt! ![KEWL](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/new/thumbsup.gif)
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-17-2008, 10:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: portsmouth RI
Posts: 39
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is there any danger with the mixture in a sealed plastic container?i have 2 qts. mixed for sealing the plugs i make
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03-17-2008, 10:58 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern Connecticut
Posts: 194
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Crumpled rags generate heat. I wouldnt trust plastic.
Best bet is spread them out to dry, then dispose. If they are spread out, they cant get hot enough to ignite. It's when they are crumpled up in a ball that the center of the rag is insulated and can get very hot potentially causing spontanious combustion.
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03-17-2008, 11:07 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I store my mixture in 1 gallon aluminum/tin paint cans.....or a glass container would do.......the can would be better as it will not break. Also keep another tin paint can with a lid handy and when you are finished with the rags, put them in the can with enough water to soak the rags and close the lid tight. ![Wink](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-17-2008, 11:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,740
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If you want to do an interesting experiment, wipe up a little BLO with a paper towel, just enough to dampen it, not soak it, crumple it up and hold it in your hand for several minutes....you will heed the warnings from that time foreward.
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03-17-2008, 11:23 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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You got that right Roc! I just get worried everytime someone asks about sealers and someone replies BLO and Mins........I want folks to realize what can happen.....so hopefully we have saved someone alot of trouble with this thread! ![Uhuh](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/nod.gif)
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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07-02-2008, 10:20 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
Posts: 2,251
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Larry,,, I will not use BLO since the garage in Texas gets to 100 deg,,, I just cant trust it when I am gone,,,,
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07-02-2008, 10:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 22
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what are some other good sealer recommendations besides BLO
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07-02-2008, 11:50 PM
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Veni, vidi, piscori!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Vermont
Posts: 152
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I've been happy using Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane cut with mineral spirits. Dries fast, seals well, low fire hazard!
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Thanks for taking me fishing Grandpa!
SCP - Stephen's Custom Plugs .... (Not a company - just a mindset!)
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07-03-2008, 05:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTBasser
I've been happy using Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane cut with mineral spirits. Dries fast, seals well, low fire hazard!
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If I have been waiting 3 days for plugs to dry with BLO, how long are you waiting for your plugs to dry?
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07-03-2008, 06:21 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Shore MA
Posts: 228
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for a quick and dirty seal try regular sanding sealer. Dries quick and gives pretty good protection. Heed the warnings. no matter what the label says I always put them in a metal paint can with water. better safe than sorry.
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07-03-2008, 07:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Line Sider
If I have been waiting 3 days for plugs to dry with BLO, how long are you waiting for your plugs to dry?
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I should say that I have been pleased with BLO in my limited plug making - and it appears that this is some pretty good sealing - but always interested in what others (far more experienced than I) are doing.
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07-03-2008, 08:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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Sealers
Beware!
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07-03-2008, 08:34 AM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
Posts: 2,251
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Woody... as bad as that picture looks,,,, I like it,,,, ![Hidin'](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/new/sofa.gif)
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07-03-2008, 08:42 AM
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Veni, vidi, piscori!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Vermont
Posts: 152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Line Sider
If I have been waiting 3 days for plugs to dry with BLO, how long are you waiting for your plugs to dry?
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19 to 24 hours and your good to go. Usually I seal one night and prime the next night after work. Might even be able to go to the next step in 9 to 12 hours - they seem dry the next morning - but I have not tried it.
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Thanks for taking me fishing Grandpa!
SCP - Stephen's Custom Plugs .... (Not a company - just a mindset!)
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07-06-2008, 07:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Connecticut/Rhody Shore
Posts: 280
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hey woody and woodbuster you guys are here too? hi you doing'
i'm surfflyfish4stripers...hahaha ![Pat Patriot](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/pats2.gif)
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07-06-2008, 07:39 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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I use CPES ... I am starting to resemble the Toxic Avenger ..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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07-07-2008, 09:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
Posts: 2,290
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Good reminder Larry -- I am partial to Val Oil 60-40 but all the precautions apply with that mixture. ![Uhuh](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/nod.gif)
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low & slow 37
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07-13-2008, 09:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 7
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quick question; I used cardboard to protect floor, will the cardboard with BLO/MIN spots(spill marks) ignite ???
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10-01-2008, 11:49 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Marblehead, MA
Posts: 864
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WantBigStripers
quick question; I used cardboard to protect floor, will the cardboard with BLO/MIN spots(spill marks) ignite ???
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Good question...I drip dry over a piece of MDF...I have the same concerns.... Anyone?
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Fish Rule!
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10-01-2008, 07:10 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,119
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I think as long as you don't have a situation where the stuff can't ventilate as in a crumpled up rag soaked it it, you'll be ok with drippings on cardboard or MDF. those will have enough air to allow drying to occur. It's the heat building up in a crumpled up rag that cause combustion with BLO
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10-02-2008, 05:32 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
........I want folks to realize what can happen.....so hopefully we have saved someone alot of trouble with this thread! ![Uhuh](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/nod.gif)
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Having a fire is MORE than allot of trouble...
it .......is...........HELL.....>> trust me, i know
this thread and it's advice should be a sticky ![Uhuh](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/nod.gif)
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10-02-2008, 05:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Marblehead, MA
Posts: 864
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
I think as long as you don't have a situation where the stuff can't ventilate as in a crumpled up rag soaked it it, you'll be ok with drippings on cardboard or MDF. those will have enough air to allow drying to occur. It's the heat building up in a crumpled up rag that cause combustion with BLO
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Thx, Those are pretty much my thoughts as well......
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Fish Rule!
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10-02-2008, 07:27 AM
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Covered in Sawdust
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
I use CPES ... I am starting to resemble the Toxic Avenger ..
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TOXIC AVENGER....That's a classic!!!!
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10-02-2008, 04:01 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,592
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
I use CPES ... I am starting to resemble the Toxic Avenger ..
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Eddie, i thought you knew how to hold your breath. ![Big Grin](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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" Choose Life "
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10-28-2008, 09:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Connecticut/Rhody Shore
Posts: 280
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTBasser
I've been happy using Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane cut with mineral spirits. Dries fast, seals well, low fire hazard!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Line Sider
If I have been waiting 3 days for plugs to dry with BLO, how long are you waiting for your plugs to dry?
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i just switched to spar urethane thinned with m/s. blo takes too darn long to dry.i do 2 coats of spar ure.. and the plug is hard like a rock. ![Jump](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/jump.gif)
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10-28-2008, 08:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Central CT
Posts: 148
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Dave, are you soaking them or just brushing it on. Huge difference.
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If I knew I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself!!
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10-28-2008, 09:01 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Anyone use Propionate Wood Sealer
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01-21-2009, 07:55 AM
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You rang?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lowell
Posts: 946
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Is there a safer sealer one that beginners can use?
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01-21-2009, 10:30 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Helsman spar urethane satin finish cut 70/30 with mineral spirits. About as safe as your going to get and readily available.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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