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10-19-2022, 02:21 PM
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Once you're in the United States on a student visa (F-1 or M-1), your right to stay in the country depends not only on when your official permission to remain expires, but whether you are maintaining your student immigration status. You can maintain your status by following all of the rules of your student status—in other words, by doing everything you agreed to do when you received the visa or status change.
starting your own business is breaking the rules
Why You Should Abide by Student Visa Rules
If you violate the rules that come with your F-1 or M-1 student visa, you are said to "fall out of status." That means that your right to be in the United States disappears automatically.
Your accompanying spouse and children will simultaneously lose their right to be here. You and your family could be deported and your unlawful stay in the United States would be entered onto your permanent immigration record.
The most important rules are rather simple. You must, in order to comply with the terms of a student visa:
go to school as expected (and only the school that helped you get the visa)
work only on campus or with permission from USCIS, and
make sure that your school's foreign student adviser (often called a designated student adviser or DSO) or U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) approve any changes in your overall
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Jim you are barking up the wrong Tree AGAIN its Republicans who have a hard on for your friend you are just in denial
you want to pick and choose the circumstance of your support for immigrants .. because a personal connection I get it and like I have said I am sure he is a hard worker ... But the laws the law. and he came on student visa and others claiming asylum....
https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo...isa-rules.html
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YOU yourself, itemized all the exceptions to the rule, that allow one to work while on a student visa, including working off campus. You have no way of knowing if he broke any rule. But his story doesn't paint liberalism favorably, so you pretend that he must have broken the rules.
He worked with Immigration and his lawyers every single step of the way.
If it weren't for the who-knows-how-many millions of illegals here, we'd have more spots available for people who choose to obey the rules. Which is obviously fair. But it makes liberals look bad, because they are currently embracing some pretty kooky things.
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10-20-2022, 08:47 AM
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YOU yourself, itemized all the exceptions to the rule, that allow one to work while on a student visa, including working off campus. You have no way of knowing if he broke any rule. But his story doesn't paint liberalism favorably, so you pretend that he must have broken the rules.
He worked with Immigration and his lawyers every single step of the way.
If it weren't for the who-knows-how-many millions of illegals here, we'd have more spots available for people who choose to obey the rules. Which is obviously fair. But it makes liberals look bad, because they are currently embracing some pretty kooky things.
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You know him . Jim but why twist into I have no way of knowing if he broke any rules ? Give it up you can’t or won’t say he didn’t break any rules . Why is that?
and if that was True he didn’t break the rules.. he wouldn’t have been forced to leave..
Like I said you have a loose relationship with the Truth
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10-20-2022, 09:02 AM
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You know him . Jim but why twist into I have no way of knowing if he broke any rules ? Give it up you can’t or won’t say he didn’t break any rules . Why is that?
and if that was True he didn’t break the rules.. he wouldn’t have been forced to leave..
Like I said you have a loose relationship with the Truth
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I'll give it up when you stop dodging this obvious question...how is it fair to heap rewards on those who break the rules, while punishing those who obey the rules?
Why can't you just answer? ( Because it's a losing issue for your side)
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10-20-2022, 09:51 AM
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I'll give it up when you stop dodging this obvious question...how is it fair to heap rewards on those who break the rules, while punishing those who obey the rules?
Why can't you just answer? (Because it's a losing issue for your side)
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if you are claiming asylum you are following the Rules is it that hard ?
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10-20-2022, 11:50 AM
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if you are claiming asylum you are following the Rules is it that hard ?
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The people fleeing Venezuela technically aren’t fleeing because they are being persecuted, they are fleeing because of a crumbling economy.
To claim asylum, they have to be fleeing persecution based on things like political views and religion. So they legally can’t be granted asylum.
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10-20-2022, 03:13 PM
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The people fleeing Venezuela technically aren’t fleeing because they are being persecuted, they are fleeing because of a crumbling economy.
To claim asylum, they have to be fleeing persecution based on things like political views and religion. So they legally can’t be granted asylum.
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Still don’t understand how it works I am shocked
Just to help you out ! migrants can claim what ever they want to claim
Only those who pass a credible fear interview are referred back to USCIS for a separate “asylum merits interview.” At this interview, which is supposed to occur within 21-45 days of the credible fear interview, the asylum officer will determine whether or not to grant the person asylum.
That’s the law
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10-20-2022, 03:26 PM
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Still don’t understand how it works I am shocked
Just to help you out ! migrants can claim what ever they want to claim
Only those who pass a credible fear interview are referred back to USCIS for a separate “asylum merits interview.” At this interview, which is supposed to occur within 21-45 days of the credible fear interview, the asylum officer will determine whether or not to grant the person asylum.
That’s the law
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The law also says that asylum seekers have to enter legally at a port of entry. See 8 USC 1325.
You very conveniently left that out.
For the 20th time, please tell me how the feds know where illegals are (since many of them have never spoken to anyone in the government), and therefore how do the feds know how much money to send where, to support the infastructure you said exists for them.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
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10-20-2022, 04:19 PM
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Still don’t understand how it works I am shocked
Just to help you out ! migrants can claim what ever they want to claim
Only those who pass a credible fear interview are referred back to USCIS for a separate “asylum merits interview.” At this interview, which is supposed to occur within 21-45 days of the credible fear interview, the asylum officer will determine whether or not to grant the person asylum.
That’s the law
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Enlighten me, ye of the incomprehensible sentence, on the ways of the world, use that superior intellect of yours to educate me, on something that, yet again, I didn’t say.
I know there’s a process numb nuts
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10-20-2022, 12:48 PM
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if you are claiming asylum you are following the Rules is it that hard ?
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so you’re saying there’s no such thing as illegal immigration? my god, anything to avoid answering a challenging question.
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10-20-2022, 03:01 PM
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so you’re saying there’s no such thing as illegal immigration? my god, anything to avoid answering a challenging question.
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You can never stay on topic can you ?
Illegals get deported all the time only in Republicans fantasy’s
This only happens when they are in the White House when they lose
It’s the democrats who leave the lights on for them and a key underneath a Mat on the border
Also when’s the next caravans expected ? Is is midterms
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10-20-2022, 03:28 PM
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You can never stay on topic can you ?
Illegals get deported all the time only in Republicans fantasy’s
This only happens when they are in the White House when they lose
It’s the democrats who leave the lights on for them and a key underneath a Mat on the border
Also when’s the next caravans expected ? Is is midterms
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Illegals who get caught, can get deported. There are millions and millions who are still here. Who should have to pay for their care?
"It’s the democrats who leave the lights on for them and a key underneath a Mat on the border"
Historically, as I have said, both parties encouraged illegal immigration. And Trump abd the GOP get an F for not building the wall when they could have. Today, only one party is actively encouraging it.
This estimate guesses that 11.5 million illegals are living in the US. Who should have to pay for that? Just the border states? Why don't the residents of Marthas Vineyard have to take their share?
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Il...ulation-Survey
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10-20-2022, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
YOU yourself, itemized all the exceptions to the rule, that allow one to work while on a student visa, including working off campus. You have no way of knowing if he broke any rule. But his story doesn't paint liberalism favorably, so you pretend that he must have broken the rules.
He worked with Immigration and his lawyers every single step of the way.
If it weren't for the who-knows-how-many millions of illegals here, we'd have more spots available for people who choose to obey the rules. Which is obviously fair. But it makes liberals look bad, because they are currently embracing some pretty kooky things.
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Jim thinks he’s discovered something new.
Whenever Trumplicans accuse others you can count on them being guilty of that.
For as soon as people start thinking they do not have, somebody can point at somebody else and say, 'That's why you do not have.'
The basis for grievance politics
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