Huntsman's Out

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

wow..so if he's a moderate capturing a lot of liberal democrats that are happy with Obama(moderates) .....and you "disagree almost across the board ideologically" with him...

that make you a real left wing nut job...doesn't it???

I mean, based on the spectrum that you seem to lay out in your arguments...

He's not a moderate at all, thats the point. I think he was portrayed as a moderate because he wasn't pandering to the social conservative vote. He is closer to the center on some of the issues you mentioned, but I don't think he was going to pull a significant number of democrats.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

He's not a moderate at all, thats the point. I think he was portrayed as a moderate because he wasn't pandering to the social conservative vote. He is closer to the center on some of the issues you mentioned, but I don't think he was going to pull a significant number of democrats.

Huntsman himself categorized his viewpoint as "center right". Certainly on many issues he has a strong conservative track record.

He didn't play a smart game. He should have known that pragmatism doesn't win primaries, and skipping Iowa lost him very valuable media time that went to Mitt and Newt instead.

He seems like a good guy though, certainly as smart as any of them and a willingness to actually talk solutions rather than just sling mud.

-spence

[Raven]

For wrecking the political system as it stands
like a "political terrorist" with absolutely NO real plans
for actually running for president

the same as if 100,000 people
suddenly all ran for president
but did so....just to fudge up the process

now adays people run for president
just so they can get a job as a new announcer on TV
it's gotten ridiculous ...of course that's just my opinion

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Raven

For wrecking the political system as it stands
like a "political terrorist" with absolutely NO real plans
for actually running for president

the same as if 100,000 people
suddenly all ran for president
but did so....just to fudge up the process

Raven, usually your quirky for the sake of being quirky.... but that last post is 'spoken like a true #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&' to quote some movie line....

the whole point is that 100,000 people COULD run for president. that's a good thing, maybe one of those is qualified and not a retread from the same system. Otherwise, it feels like the game is a bit rigged...
I don't love Maddow's show, but caught this clip a few nights ago flipping past... (sorry for the ads and length)
Rachel Maddow Show
sound familiar?


What Colbert is doing is pretty spot on, pointing out the fallacy of the the SuperPAC process. My guess is he, and Stewart have the stones to keep at the PAC's even when it is Obama friendly PAC's (Because they can and will). The fact that 'Romney' (or 'Newt' or 'Obama') can run attack ads w/o the "I'm Obama/Romney/Newt and I approved this message" line

the right rails about the unions having too much sway, the left say the corps do. lets get all this money out of the politics. I think most of us can agree with that...

[Raven]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Raven, usually your quirky for the sake of being quirky....
but that last post is 'spoken like a true #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&' to quote some movie line....
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(you'd have to define QUIRKY)
oh and agreed i am always the class clown and always will be...
that being said...
~
it's like when Colbert has someone on his show
he announces their name then runs down in front of the audience to soak up the thunderous applause & glory...
always the self promoter
i see him doing this same "MOCK" running for president for the same reasons...
and he's NOT willing to spend the money or to really try to run for President...
Now a days, it's a billion dollar proposal
with so many strings attached afterwards that it's VIRTUALLY impossible to get a quality leader....
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
What Colbert is doing is pretty spot on, pointing out the fallacy of the the SuperPAC process.

the right rails about the unions having too much sway, the left say the corps do.
lets get all this money out of the politics. I think most of us can agree with that...

yep

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Raven

yep

Based on that last post, you have clearly missed the satire of the Colbert Report.....

[Raven]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Based on that last post, you have clearly missed the satire of the Colbert Report.....

his Satire SUCKS.... he doesn't make me laugh at all

i am more of the daily show fan
you know with that other Dude...
what's his name...
Yeah miss ole Pat...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Raven

For wrecking the political system as it stands
like a "political terrorist" with absolutely NO real plans
for actually running for president

What, you don't remember Pat Paulsen...he ran for president almost every election from 1968 until he passed away in 1997......I bet other entertainers have been doing it long before that

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Now it all comes clearer in regards to Raven.......

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Raven

For wrecking the political system as it stands
like a "political terrorist" with absolutely NO real plans
for actually running for president

the same as if 100,000 people
suddenly all ran for president
but did so....just to fudge up the process

now adays people run for president
just so they can get a job as a new announcer on TV
it's gotten ridiculous ...of course that's just my opinion

Are you high?

Wait.
Don't answer that.

[Raven]

you guys are full of false assumptions
i haven't been this straight for a long LONG time
several months in fact...
a level of sobriety that i'm not hardly used to

it would be nice to have some actually
but i don't feel the need to chase it down