Is this true??

[spence]

I would be concerned that if Carson believes the end of days is near, and ISIS holds a similar position, can Ben Carson renounce his religion so that it doesn't interfere with his duty to uphold the Constitution?

It's possible that his beliefs are fundamentally incompatible with the USA

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

I would be concerned that if Carson believes the end of days is near, and ISIS holds a similar position, can Ben Carson renounce his religion so that it doesn't interfere with his duty to uphold the Constitution?

It's possible that his beliefs are fundamentally incompatible with the USA

Thats exactly why I asked.
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[Nebe]

Ok. I understand. But you get my point here. No?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Ok. I understand. But you get my point here. No?
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I'm afraid I don't...hang on...let me take a bong hit...that's what Bernie would suggest

[Nebe]

He would actually. Because it's gods weed
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[Jim in CT]

Nebe, what polling are you relying on, when you say that Hilary is not going to be the nominee? I haven't seen a poll (other than Iowa and NH) that has him anywhere near her. No one is saying Bernie is going to beat her, unless she gets indicted in the email thing, in which case the DNC would dust someone off the shelf (Kerry, Gore, Biden) to run. They will never allow Sanders to get the nomination.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Nebe, what polling are you relying on, when you say that Hilary is not going to be the nominee? I haven't seen a poll (other than Iowa and NH) that has him anywhere near her. No one is saying Bernie is going to beat her, unless she gets indicted in the email thing, in which case the DNC would dust someone off the shelf (Kerry, Gore, Biden) to run. They will never allow Sanders to get the nomination.

I don't think Sanders can win the general election. I also don't see anything that would derail Clinton, for all the hype there's just nothing there.

If it did I'd love to see Bloomberg and Romney both run late. That would be fun to watch.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think Sanders can win the general election. I also don't see anything that would derail Clinton, for all the hype there's just nothing there.

If it did I'd love to see Bloomberg and Romney both run late. That would be fun to watch.

"I don't think Sanders can win the general election."

Agreed. Do you think he can win the primary? I don't see him doing anything after Iowa and NH. Unless Hilary gets indicted, Bernie will be done by Super Tuesday, if he lasts that long.

"I also don't see anything that would derail Clinton, for all the hype there's just nothing there"

I'll disagree and leave it at that. Are you talking primary or general? The polls I have seen, show that a handful of GOP candidates are right with her, if not slightly ahead in a general match-up.

It's going to be so long and ugly. 90% of the talk (99% of Hilary's talk) will be baseless attacks, claims of racism, homophobia, war on women, insane promises of free this and that, blah, blah, blah.

[Nebe]

The polling I am relying on is my own. 😎
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The polling I am relying on is my own. 😎
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so Bernie won the straw poll at your Hippie Club meeting?...that's not surprising...

[Nebe]

We shall see.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Nebe

We shall see.
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The only way he is the Democratic nominee is if Hillary dies, becomes incapacitated medically or is indicted; and even then, he won't be the nominee.

He is driving some conversation, but he can't win a general.

[PaulS]

I believe that I heard the news saying that Carson admitted he never was offered a scholarship and that General Westmorland was never at the dinner Carson claimed he talked to him at. ( I just turned it on and there was talking in the room so I'll have to look into this more to see if I heard it correctly). This was after Carson told the news to stop lying.

If someone offers you a scholarship and it ain't in writing, it ain't a scholarship. If WP was actively recruiting Blacks, he prob. had a good chance of getting in. But it looks like no "scholarship" was offered

As RRH said, his story is compelling enough w/o making things up. His campaign has said he has gotten record donations since the liberal WSJ broke the story.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I believe that I heard the news saying that Carson admitted he never was offered a scholarship and that General Westmorland was never at the dinner Carson claimed he talked to him at. ( I just turned it on and there was talking in the room so I'll have to look into this more to see if I heard it correctly). This was after Carson told the news to stop lying. pretty sure that would be everywhere if he did

If someone offers you a scholarship and it ain't in writing, it ain't a scholarship. correct...it's an "offer"... which is all he ever said was extended in his conversation...I believe he's also side that Michigan gave him a similar "offer"...that needs to be investigated as well probably

If WP was actively recruiting Blacks not "if", he prob. had a good chance of getting in. Top of his class excelled in ROTC and eventually became a neurosurgeon...yeah, he might have squeaked in But it looks like no "scholarship" was offered again...you have absolutely no idea what was offered

As RRH said, his story is compelling enough w/o making things up. you have no idea what was or was not made up [COLOR="blue"]

His campaign has said he has gotten record donations since the liberal WSJ broke the story.
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pretty sure it was Politico that broke the story....Jim Geraghty has been writing on the Mannatech story for almost a year...guess it just became relavant

[Raven]

hilliary wants reclassification

[PaulS]

Here are a couple more:

The Journal pointed out that Carson falsely claimed last week in a Facebook post that “Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.” The paper interviewed Benjamin L. Carp, an associate professor of history at Brooklyn College and author of books on the American Revolution. According to The Journal’s article on the matter: “Mr. Carp said Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, John Hancock and many other signers had been elected members of their colonial assemblies, prior to signing the Declaration.”

In comparing the success of his Carson Scholars Fund to other nonprofits, Carson has repeatedly claimed that “nine out of 10 nonprofits fail,” a claim that The Washington Post Fact Checker has rated false with four Pinocchios, the worst rating — what the newspaper simply calls “whoppers.”
Of the 19 claims of Carson the fact checking site PolitiFact has delved into, none have been ruled true and only one mostly true. Indeed most — like Carson’s claim that he “ ‘didn’t have an involvement with’ nutritional supplement company Mannatech” — have either been ruled false or what the site calls “pants on fire,” a statement the site rules as not only not accurate, but “ridiculous.”

[Nebe]

http://thebernreport.com/bernie-sand...mock-election/

Just saw this this morning.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

http://thebernreport.com/bernie-sand...mock-election/

Just saw this this morning.
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nothing like a Monday morning chubby

[spence]

Funny, they just reported on Morning Joe the syllabus Carson posted to prove the class existed was from 2002.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Funny, they just reported on Morning Joe the syllabus Carson posted to prove the class existed was from 2002.
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True. The CNN claim was that the class never existed. The recent syllabus debunks that. Carson posted an artucle from the Yale paper, written at the time, that discussed the incident in question. Obviously it happened.

Again Spence, I cannot imagine any logic whereby Hilary's lies don't say anything about her qualifications to be POTUS, but Carson's do. There's absolutely no way you can justify that double standard.

Given the atricle in the Yale paper, it would appear Carson was telling the truth.

Given that (1) West Point had posters aimed at black students that mentioned "scholarships", and (2) given that Carson has said many times he never formally applied to West Point, and (3) given that no one but Carson and Gen Westmoreland heard the conversation between the 2, no one can come close to showing that Carson lied about that. At a minimum, it's fair to assume that Westmorland encouraged him to apply, suggesting he would get in, which obviously he would have. If Westmoreland said "if you apply, we'll give you a free ride to college", and Carson describes that as being offered a scholarship, did Carson lie?

The man said we should not have invaded Afghanistan after 9/11. If you want to destroy the man bacause he is such a threat, why can't you do it the fair way, and tell us why his policies would be bad for the country? Liberals almost never do that. It's always personal attacks. It's ridiculous.

You deny that Hilary lied about the sniper thing, when we have video evidence showing she did. Yet you are bending over backwards to portray this black man as a liar. I thought liberals claimed they cared about blacks, and it was the conservatives who were a bunch of racists? Geez, between your desperation to portray this black man as a liar, and the fact that your top 10 states have no blacks, I am sensing a pattern here.

[Jim in CT]

I just heard that Carson confessed to the Lindbergh baby kidnapping, and that he is responsible for global warming.

[spence]

A syllabus from 2002 doesn't prove a class existed in 1969.

Joe was brutal this morning...

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wat...t-562551875764

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

A syllabus from 2002 doesn't prove a class existed in 1969.

No, but it proves the class existed. CNN said it never existed.

If you think he's lying about this, read the article from the Yale paper at the time. You sound like the conservative nuts who still say Obama wasn't born here.

Spence, any chance you can answer 2 questions? Any chance at all?

(1) Why do Hilary's lies not say anything about her, but Carson's do?

(2) Why do you think Obama has spent tens of thousands of dollars to seal his academic records? There is one reason, and one reason only, why someone does that. There's something in there he doesn't want anyone else to see. And no one in the media digs into what that is. But they are doing a complete forensic analysis of everything Carson has ever said and done. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. It's also undeniable.

My guess on Obama's sealed records - he claimed he was born in Kenya on his application, to improve his chances of getting in and getting financial aid. Liberals, like Elizabeth Warren (aka Apache Chief), like to self-identify as whatever race suits them at the time.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

(2) Why do you think Obama has spent tens of thousands of dollars to seal his academic records? There is one reason, and one reason only, why someone does that. There's something in there he doesn't want anyone else to see. And no one in the media digs into what that is. But they are doing a complete forensic analysis of everything Carson has ever said and done. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. It's also undeniable.

Just another birther myth, Carson is REALLY desperate to be trotting that out.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Just another birther myth, Carson is REALLY desperate to be trotting that out.

Let's be clear...you are denying that Obama has not released his academic records? Can you tell me where I can see his transcripts?

Also, I see you completely dodged my first question. Why? Why can't you answer?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Let's be clear...you are denying that Obama has not released his academic records? Can you tell me where I can see his transcripts?

How many US Presidents have released their college transcripts?

Why do you want to see them?

[Fly Rod]

How come Spence and Nebe have not made a big deal out of hillary when her lips during one of her campaign statements stated she never signed 'Sensitive Information Nondisclosure Agreement'' when she did sign her 2nd day in office and the agreement came out with her signature last week.....where is the socialist communist left liberal democratic news media on this.....well tell me Nebe and Spence .....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

How come Spence and Nebe have not made a big deal out of hillary when her lips during one of her campaign statements stated she never signed 'Sensitive Information Nondisclosure Agreement'' when she did sign her 2nd day in office and the agreement came out with her signature last week.....where is the socialist communist left liberal democratic news media on this.....well tell me Nebe and Spence .....

I can explain it this way...

when Jim insults someone on the left...it's hate

when Paul insults someone on the right...it's because they deserved it...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

How come Spence and Nebe have not made a big deal out of hillary when her lips during one of her campaign statements stated she never signed 'Sensitive Information Nondisclosure Agreement'' when she did sign her 2nd day in office and the agreement came out with her signature last week.....where is the socialist communist left liberal democratic news media on this.....well tell me Nebe and Spence .....

When did she say she never signed it?

Have they found a single piece of information she mishandled?

[PaulS]

More but but Clinton.

CNN said that the class never existed bc Carson had the wrong # for the class.

Westmorland was never at the event where Carson claimed he talked to him. And even if he was, Westmoreland would not have been qualified to offer him a "scholarship".