What it's actually a coup?

[wdmso]

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) worked furiously to overturn the 2020 election and keep President Donald Trump in power before ultimately abandoning the effort when no evidence of widespread fraud surfaced and his outreach to states for alternate electors proved futile,
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) worked furiously to overturn the 2020 election and keep President Donald Trump in power before ultimately abandoning the effort when no evidence of widespread fraud surfaced and his outreach to states for alternate electors proved futile,
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Reps Payapal, Shelia Jackson Lee and maxine waters worked hard to hand the 2016 election to Hilary.

Waters is now busy diverting campaign money to her daughter. If she were a republican, you’d be upset by that.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Reps Payapal, Shelia Jackson Lee and maxine waters worked hard to hand the 2016 election to Hilary.

Waters is now busy diverting campaign money to her daughter. If she were a republican, you’d be upset by that.
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Funny Jim your such a liar this isn't new

Progressive Connections, have received more than $1.2 million since 2003 wow over 19 years you are trying hard with fox for you Fax outrage


Is she doing anything illegal ? is she using her money for personal use?
or just being black is enough to upset you ?



and how did fox news get this outrage it was reported to Federal Election Commission campaign-related services. by waters as required by law ....


yet you didnt have a issue when Trump paid his daughter Ivanka $747,622 for 'consulting,' then deducted it from his taxes,

or Jared getting 2 billion from the saudis for HIS company 6 months after the election ... odd

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Funny Jim your such a liar this isn't new

Progressive Connections, have received more than $1.2 million since 2003 wow over 19 years you are trying hard with fox for you Fax outrage


Is she doing anything illegal ? is she using her money for personal use?
or just being black is enough to upset you ?



and how did fox news get this outrage it was reported to Federal Election Commission campaign-related services. by waters as required by law ....


yet you didnt have a issue when Trump paid his daughter Ivanka $747,622 for 'consulting,' then deducted it from his taxes,

or Jared getting 2 billion from the saudis for HIS company 6 months after the election ... odd

so you’re upset when republicans get money, but not hunter
biden or maxine waters daughter.

you’re upset that trump
tried to undo an election, but not congressional democrats

everything is ok when
democrats do it, we get it already.

here’s the false equivalence, it’s a false equivalence to expect you to hold both sides to the equivalent standard.

Make. That. Wrong.
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[Pete F.]

Pretty easy to make it wrong

Jared Kushner sold classified intel to Mohammed Bin Salman for $2 Billion.
Kushner and his allies blocked top-level U.S. government support for MBS’s cousin, former Saudi Crown Prince MBN—a long-time intelligence and counter-terrorist asset for the U.S.—when MBN attempted a legal coup d’état in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 2017.

MBN believed he had enough support from the so-called “Council of Ministers” to back him in a regime change. If successful, both King Salman and MBS (then deputy crown prince) would have been unseated and replaced by MBN.

Kushner and his allies in the White House got word to MBS of bin Nayef’s plans, and the plot was abruptly stopped.

According to three sources with knowledge, it#^&was#^&this meddling in Saudi royal affairs that caused U.S. intelligence officials to go “apoplectic” and prevent Kushner from getting a top-level security clearance.

Jared Kushner basically handed the Saudis this information, thereby giving MBS the opportunity to kneecap his rival and get rid of him.

MBN has not been heard from since his arrest in March 2020, when he was imprisoned somewhere in Saudi Arabia.

Nowhere near equal
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Pretty easy to make it wrong

Jared Kushner sold classified intel to Mohammed Bin Salman for $2 Billion.
Kushner and his allies blocked top-level U.S. government support for MBS’s cousin, former Saudi Crown Prince MBN—a long-time intelligence and counter-terrorist asset for the U.S.—when MBN attempted a legal coup d’état in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 2017.

MBN believed he had enough support from the so-called “Council of Ministers” to back him in a regime change. If successful, both King Salman and MBS (then deputy crown prince) would have been unseated and replaced by MBN.

Kushner and his allies in the White House got word to MBS of bin Nayef’s plans, and the plot was abruptly stopped.

According to three sources with knowledge, it#^&was#^&this meddling in Saudi royal affairs that caused U.S. intelligence officials to go “apoplectic” and prevent Kushner from getting a top-level security clearance.

Jared Kushner basically handed the Saudis this information, thereby giving MBS the opportunity to kneecap his rival and get rid of him.

MBN has not been heard from since his arrest in March 2020, when he was imprisoned somewhere in Saudi Arabia.

Nowhere near equal
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Non mathematical equivalence and false equivalence doesn't necessarily require the exact same amount or degree of what is being compared, merely the same types of things are being compared.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Non mathematical equivalence and false equivalence doesn't necessarily require the exact same amount or degree of what is being compared, merely the same types of things are being compared.

Need a reason to never trust the GOP again? How about the entire Republican Party knowing about 1/6, and not a single one of them warning the FBI.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Need a reason to never trust the GOP again? How about the entire Republican Party knowing about 1/6, and not a single one of them warning the FBI.
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The "entire" Republican Party! Including all those in state governments? Even Liz Cheney? Well, I don't trust her anyway. Like her dad when he went against his promise to get rid of Obamacare with his infamous and dramatic thumbs down.

I don't trust either party, except to renege on a lot of promises. Nor do I trust the FBI. I think one of the reasons we have elections is that it would be foolish to trust politicians and parties.

Which is a major reason why I want Progressivism and the Progressive Party to be defeated. The Progressive agenda is to regulate us by unelected administrators.

I do, however, have a cynical trust in the Progressives to faithfully carry out that mission.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The "entire" Republican Party! Including all those in state governments? Even Liz Cheney? Well, I don't trust her anyway. Like her dad when he went against his promise to get rid of Obamacare with his infamous and dramatic thumbs down.

I don't trust either party, except to renege on a lot of promises. Nor do I trust the FBI. I think one of the reasons we have elections is that it would be foolish to trust politicians and parties.

Which is a major reason why I want Progressivism and the Progressive Party to be defeated. The Progressive agenda is to regulate us by unelected administrators.

I do, however, have a cynical trust in the Progressives to faithfully carry out that mission.

Right-wingers are obsessed with FA Hayek's 1944 *theory* that welfare states inevitably expand to become totalitarian. Is there *any* case in which this actually happened since 1944? Arguably, Pinochet's Chile, but this was an authoritarian effort to stop socialism.
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[Raider Ronnie]

https://rumble.com/v112t8q-the-missi...-revealed.html




Nothing to see here.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

https://rumble.com/v112t8q-the-missi...-revealed.html




Nothing to see here.
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Yet, as the DOJ hunts down legitimate peaceful protesters from that day

Keep convincing yourself they were legitimate peaceful protesters

Your sources history

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A lot of Rumble's traffic is referred from Parler.[12] Using data from February 2021, researchers studying conspiracy theories and misinformation about COVID-19 noted that several content creators have gained a receptive audience on Rumble after their productions have been pulled from YouTube or Facebook

Keep your head in the bubble
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yet, as the DOJ hunts down legitimate peaceful protesters from that day

Keep convincing yourself they were legitimate peaceful protesters

You keep convincing yourself what your liberal media feeds you and also hides from you.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

You keep convincing yourself what your liberal media feeds you and also hides from you.
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Iam not the conspiracy theorist here but keep up the good work..
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Iam not the conspiracy theorist here but keep up the good work..
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It is convenient for you to label anything that runs counter to what you believe, or want to believe, a conspiracy theory (concocting your own conspiracies?).

I saw no theory, conspiracy or otherwise, in Raider's video. On the Capitol Building official government videos, the Capitol police appeared more to be welcoming the protesters rather than blocking or stopping them.

[Raider Ronnie]

I had WRKO on all day at work that day of the so called Insurection.
Call after call from people that were there reported that Antifa & BLM members were mixed in with the crowd and instigating violence & destruction.

I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

I had WRKO on all day at work that day of the so called Insurection.
Call after call from people that were there reported that Antifa & BLM members were mixed in with the crowd and instigating violence & destruction.

I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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so what you are saying is you had WRKO on speed dial

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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Did she ever claim she was in the capital?

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

I had WRKO on all day at work that day of the so called Insurection.
Call after call from people that were there reported that Antifa & BLM members were mixed in with the crowd and instigating violence & destruction.

I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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Of course and obviously Trump won the election and those damn plants caused all the trouble, you crack me up.

[Pete F.]

I guess you can ignore what happened
There’s plenty of footage of the crowd, point out someone who you think is Antifa or BLM
Funny how that’s not happened

https://youtu.be/0pe241gW0dQ
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Did she ever claim she was in the capital?

Ron didn’t say she claimed to be in the capitol, but she did claim she was in danger

(CNN) When Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was barricaded inside her office during the Capitol insurrection on January 6, she not only feared that mob would kill her, but that she would be raped if the rioters found her.

"I didn't think that I was just going to be killed," Ocasio-Cortez told CNN's Dana Bash in "Being...AOC," the first episode of the new CNN series "Being..." that airs Monday night at 9 p.m. ET. "I thought other things were going to happen to me as well."
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Ron didn’t say she claimed to be in the capitol, but she did claim she was in danger

(CNN) When Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was barricaded inside her office during the Capitol insurrection on January 6, she not only feared that mob would kill her, but that she would be raped if the rioters found her.

"I didn't think that I was just going to be killed," Ocasio-Cortez told CNN's Dana Bash in "Being...AOC," the first episode of the new CNN series "Being..." that airs Monday night at 9 p.m. ET. "I thought other things were going to happen to me as well."
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I looked it up. She said when she heard the banging on the door she thought the insurrectionist were coming for her. After a few min. she found out it was capital policeman.

Seems like Ronnie is dismissing what the trauma of a sexual assault victim would feel and is trying to insinuate she lied. I wonder why he even mentioned her or said "she was no where near the place" given she never claimed she was.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I looked it up. She said when she heard the banging on the door she thought the insurrectionist were coming for her. After a few min. she found out it was capital policeman.

Seems like Ronnie is dismissing what the trauma of a sexual assault victim would feel and is trying to insinuate she lied. I wonder why he even mentioned her or said "she was no where near the place" given she never claimed she was.

if she said she thought the insurrectionists were going to rape her and murder her, that doesn’t imply that she’s claiming she was near the site of the insurrection? how can they kill her after doing other things to her, if she wasn’t there?

everyone wants to date her, she’s just that irresistible.

can’t you just say she misspoke? would it kill you to say that?

anything to be a victim.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if she said she thought the insurrectionists were going to rape her and murder her, that doesn’t imply that she’s claiming she was near the site of the insurrection? how can they kill her after doing other things to her, if she wasn’t there?
no it doesn't. She was told to leave the office building. Why would they tell her to leave the office building if they didn't think there was some potential for harm?
everyone wants to date her, she’s just that irresistible.

can’t you just say she misspoke? How did she misspeak?would it kill you to say that?

anything to be a victim.
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Anything to dismiss a Dem? or anything to dismiss a sexual assault survivor?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Anything to dismiss a Dem? or anything to dismiss a sexual assault survivor?

“no it doesn’t.”

ok. so if i say i thought the 9/11 terrorists were going to get me, you wouldnt assume
i was claiming to be in NY or DC. And if it turned out i was camping in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge at the time, then as long as i was a democrat, you’d be ok with my story.

And i suppose you believe her abuela had a leaky roof too, and AOC with her multiple homes and new Tesla, wasn’t in a position to be able to do anything. Poor abuela.

no paul, not anything to dismiss a dem. just ones that are stupid, pathologically lying, perpetually victimized, woke marxist dipsh*ts. she fits the bill, and is leading a huge parade of democrat lemmings right off a cliff.

personally i love her and hope she stays in power for 50 years. better than a republican having that seat.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Ron didn’t dismiss anything and he didn’t insinuate anything. He stated exactly what she said, in her own words, that she was feeling at the time.

AOC is a Drama Queen, plain and simple
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Ron didn’t dismiss anything and he didn’t insinuate anything. He stated exactly what she said, in her own words, that she was feeling at the time.

AOC is a Drama Queen, plain and simple
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He left out 99% of the story.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Like I said."Drama Queen"
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Like I said."Drama Queen"
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Speaking of AOC

Who else has seen the video supposedly that’s her blowing some dude ?
Naturally the liberal fact checkers say it’s not her or they say video is doctored but I don’t buy that.
Sure looks & sounds like her !
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Speaking of AOC

Who else has seen the video supposedly that’s her blowing some dude ?
Naturally the liberal fact checkers say it’s not her or they say video is doctored but I don’t buy that.
Sure looks & sounds like her !
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Lucky guy.
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Lucky guy.
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I actually agree
She sure knew what she was doing though at one point she says
“Don’t cum in my mouth daddy”
Just like a liberal.
She doesn’t finish the job !!!
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