Staggering COVID-19 Statistic: 98% to 99% of Americans Dying are Unvaccinated

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

now biden said in tv this week that if you’re not on his side of voting reform, you’re George Wallace. When will he apologize?

Yes jim Biden said something that butt hurt Republicans , it's funny what you excuse as hyperbole in others AKA Trump and the GOP is always seen an taken as 100x serious from Biden (cancer handling covid ) to name a few

let's take a historical view of elected Republicans use of threats incendiary rhetoric secession and seditious language ... you will see a list 3x longer from republicans than the Democrats but you'll once again present the defense both sides do it

Meanwhile a large majority of americans support voter id laws. does that make them segregationists wayne?


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Jim Meanwhile a large majority of americans support More Gun Control hows that working? An August 2019 Fox News poll of registered voters found 90% of respondents favored universal background checks, 81% supported taking guns from at-risk individuals, and 67% favored banning assault weapons. According to a Pew Research Center poll, "roughly half of Americans (53%) favor stricter gun laws

Public Supports Both Early Voting And Requiring Photo ID to Vote you are correct but you are missing the rest of the story

A large majority (71%) of the public feels in-person early voting should generally be made easier. Just 16% say it should be made harder. Opinion is more divided on voting by mail – 50% say this should be made easier and 39% say it should be made harder. At the same time, fully 4 in 5 Americans (80%) support requiring voters to show photo identification in order to cast a ballot. Just 18% oppose this.
If the voting thing was just about Voter ID maybe would have a valid
Point

the GOP is AGAINST anything that increase participaction.. why they are against a having a voting holiday, drop boxes, early voting, automatic voter enrolment , mail in ballots and expanding forms of voter ID ? why not get involved in these Bill ?

we know the answer because they can't because the base can't accept losing ! SO Trump and the GOP have convinced this Base they lost because of Fraud, no Id ,drop boxes ,early voting ,mail in voting even the voting Machines are in on the Steal . and real Americans vote in person..

And many of these people who are against making voting easier. will just use doordash ... for Burger king for its convenience?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim Meanwhile a large majority of americans support More con Control hows that working?

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our leftist friends here becoming increasingly as incoherent as brandon and president harris.....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

A Republican member of Congress marking the latest instance in which a GOP lawmaker has chosen to compare measures to Nazi practices that culminated in the genocide of millions of Jews.

democrats never do this....

[Pete F.]

They lied to their base and killed tens of thousands just to be able to deliver the line Steve Scalise said today, "more people have died under President Biden's watch."

That's today's GOP.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

They lied to their base and killed tens of thousands just to be able to deliver the line Steve Scalise said today, "more people have died under President Biden's watch."

That's today's GOP.
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didnt Paul S very recently post a trump quote, where Trump praised vaccines and bragged that he was vaccinated and boosted?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

They lied to their base and killed tens of thousands just to be able to deliver the line Steve Scalise said today, "more people have died under President Biden's watch."

That's today's GOP.

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ingenious....

[Pete F.]

Amazing how coincidentally this happened but he bears no responsibility at all. 🤡

Since last May, people living in counties that voted heavily for Trump have been nearly three times as likely to die from covid as those who live in areas that went for Biden.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Amazing how coincidentally this happened but he bears no responsibility at all. 🤡

Since last May, people living in counties that voted heavily for Trump have been nearly three times as likely to die from covid as those who live in areas that went for Biden.
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even more brilliant killing their own voters to hurt brandon

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Amazing how coincidentally this happened but he bears no responsibility at all. 🤡

Since last May, people living in counties that voted heavily for Trump have been nearly three times as likely to die from covid as those who live in areas that went for Biden.
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Pete, Trump is pro vaccine. He’s encouraging people to get vaccinated. So by what possible logic, could you say it’s his fault that republicans have low vaccination rates?

Is there anything in your kind that’s not Trumps fault?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pete, Trump is pro vaccine. He’s encouraging people to get vaccinated. So by what possible logic, could you say it’s his fault that republicans have low vaccination rates?

Is there anything in your kind that’s not Trumps fault?
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Just a coincidence, huh?

The GOP spent decades building a perpetual misinformation machine that was designed to radicalize their supporters, and now some are acting surprised that the people they radicalized have taken over their party.


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just a coincidence, huh?

The GOP spent decades building a perpetual misinformation machine that was designed to radicalize their supporters, and now some are acting surprised that the people they radicalized have taken over their party.


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i don’t know who said that nonsense about the misinformation machine.

trump is on video saying the vaccine saves lives.

So for the second time, please explain how he is the reason why people aren’t getting vaccinated.

It’s fact that republicans have very poor vaccination rates. But what’s the evidence it’s trumps fault, if he’s telling people
to get vaccinated?

You’re denying facts that don’t serve your Narrative.

I hate that republicans have low vaccination rates. it makes my side
look stupid. But i can still
admit that fact, because i’m not crazy.

You hate that Trump is pro vaccine. You can’t admit that fact, because you are crazy. crazy with TDS.
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[Pete F.]

It isn’t everyday you can say thousands of Americans will likely die because of what the Supreme Court justices ruled. But today is such a day.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It isn’t everyday you can say thousands of Americans will likely die because of what the Supreme Court justices ruled. But today is such a day.
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it’s not their job to save lives. it’s their job to strike down that which violates the constitution.

Take a middle school civics class.

here’s Trump on the vaccine:

“the vaccine works, people aren’t dying who take the vaccine.”

yet you blame him for people not taking the vaccine.

that’s not crazy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ess/index.html
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It isn’t everyday you can say thousands of Americans will likely die because of what the Supreme Court justices ruled. But today is such a day.
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to be Honest I never thought the 100 person business mandate was going to be up held ..

But I think with how the nation has seen the effects of covid 1st hand many many business. will be making the vaccine a condition of employment for a whole host of reasons .

This ruling only applied to the Fed Government mandate not private business many whom have all ready made it a condition of employmnet

[Pete F.]

It’s always sorta kinda with your man

“I would recommend it, and I would recommend it to a lot of people that don’t want to get it, and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly,” he said during the Tuesday phone interview. “It is a great vaccine. It is a safe vaccine and it is something that works.”

But Trump’s endorsement was not unequivocal. Immediately after recommending his supporters get vaccinated, Trump offered an apologia for those who refuse, saying, “we have our freedoms, and we have to live by that. And I agree with that also.”

“Die with your nose tubes in.” The 21st Century GOP definition of freedom.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It’s always sorta kinda with your man

“I would recommend it, and I would recommend it to a lot of people that don’t want to get it, and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly,” he said during the Tuesday phone interview. “It is a great vaccine. It is a safe vaccine and it is something that works.”

But Trump’s endorsement was not unequivocal. Immediately after recommending his supporters get vaccinated, Trump offered an apologia for those who refuse, saying, “we have our freedoms, and we have to live by that. And I agree with that also.”

“Die with your nose tubes in.” The 21st Century GOP definition of freedom.
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the second half of his comment is obviously targeted at mandates. not at vaccines.

i’m 100% in favor of the vaccine. but the mandate seems unconstitutional.

those are two distinct things.

no kinda sorta. Trump is opposed to federal mandates, but recommends we all freely choose to get vaccinated.

why is he “my man”, when i say he’s a horrible person and i hope he never runs again?

only you guys would say that makes him “my man”.

your man, is wrapping up one of the worst first years any president has ever had. and this past week, it doesn’t get much worse.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

your man, is wrapping up one of the worst first years any president has ever had. and this past week, it doesn’t get much worse.

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hold his beer...he's just getting started

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the second half of his comment is obviously targeted at mandates. not at vaccines.

i’m 100% in favor of the vaccine. but the mandate seems unconstitutional.

those are two distinct things.

no kinda sorta. Trump is opposed to federal mandates, but recommends we all freely choose to get vaccinated.

why is he “my man”, when i say he’s a horrible person and i hope he never runs again?

only you guys would say that makes him “my man”.

your man, is wrapping up one of the worst first years any president has ever had. and this past week, it doesn’t get much worse.
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One Year In, Biden’s Approval Rating Is In Trouble — Only Trump’s Was Lower
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

One Year In, Biden’s Approval Rating Is In Trouble — Only Trump’s Was Lower
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yes but democrats and the media and government partisans viciously attacked trump from day 1 of his administration....biden has been fondled and propped up for the past year and is still a disaster

[detbuch]

Hey Pete, didn't you claim that America's inferior health system results in Americans having poorer overall health than the other advanced countries?

By that metric, it stands to reason that Americans would die at a higher rate from Covid than other countries because Covid deaths are mostly a result of co-morbidities, and our crappy health system results in more co-morbidities.

Or maybe it's the crappy way Americans take care of themselves, more than the health system, that is the problem.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Or maybe it's the crappy way Americans take care of themselves, more than the health system, that is the problem.

yup....if we're being honest this is a pandemic of the fat costing the healthcare system a fortune...we need federal mandates to make people diet and exercise or face hefty(see what I did there) fines and lose their jobs, maybe put them in camps till they comply....it's like seat belts for drivers of automobiles....need to stop these people from killing themselves as they speed through life in their oversized suv bodies....need to slim them down to compacts...and it will be better for the environment

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Hey Pete, didn't you claim that America's inferior health system results in Americans having poorer overall health than the other advanced countries?

By that metric, it stands to reason that Americans would die at a higher rate from Covid than other countries because Covid deaths are mostly a result of co-morbidities, and our crappy health system results in more co-morbidities.

Or maybe it's the crappy way Americans take care of themselves, more than the health system, that is the problem.

Americans health issues are real, on both an individual and system level.

But you’re thinking that the reason counties that supported Trump have higher death rates is because of Whale Team Six?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

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But you’re thinking that the reason counties that supported Trump have higher death rates is because of Whale Team Six?

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you keep assuming that the people that died in counties that supported trump are trump supporters...but you don't know that unless the counties are 100% trump voters..which is highly unlikely

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

you keep assuming that the people that died in counties that supported trump are trump supporters...but you don't know that unless the counties are 100% trump voters..which is highly unlikely

Wow
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[scottw]

good news pete...you freaked out over nothing...again


Florida officials confirmed last week that between 800,000 and 1 million COVID tests had expired in a warehouse just before the New Year due to "low demand." On January 7, the Food and Drug Administration issued a letter to Abbott Diagnostics, who produced the tests, saying that they have extended the shelf-life for those tests, and that they can still be used.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Americans health issues are real, on both an individual and system level.

But you’re thinking that the reason counties that supported Trump have higher death rates is because of Whale Team Six?
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If Americans health is overall worse than the health of those in other advanced countries, then it very much stands to reason that would be a major contributing factor of why American death rates from/with Covid would be higher than in those other countries. Disregarding that and trying to pin the blame on politics or the President is worse than merely being disingenuous.

[Pete F.]

Funny that you bring up the Koch’s best investments, a Manchin in WV and a Synema in Arizona
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Funny that you bring up the Koch’s best investments, a Manchin in WV and a Synema in Arizona
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Sort of like Soros's investment in A.G.'s and Secretaries of State in various key state legislatures.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sort of like Soros's investment in A.G.'s and Secretaries of State in various key state legislatures.

You cite unsubstantiated right wing tropes

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W. Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), two lawmakers who have insisted on shrinking Biden’s domestic legislative priorities, are reaping the benefits for their actions in the form of lucrative campaign donations from Republican donors — many of whom have never given to Democrats before.
And there are receipts
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You cite unsubstantiated right wing tropes

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W. Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), two lawmakers who have insisted on shrinking Biden’s domestic legislative priorities, are reaping the benefits for their actions in the form of lucrative campaign donations from Republican donors — many of whom have never given to Democrats before.
And there are receipts
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So Manchin and Sinema didn't get donations from Democrat donors before? Did Manchin and Sinema simply decide that they'd rather get donations from Republican donors?

So the other Dem Senators only vote Dem because they get money from Dem donors?

If Manchin and Sinema really want to get more money from Repub donors, they should just switch parties.