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Old 03-28-2014, 02:28 PM   #1
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Gov. Christie internal investigation

After an exhaustive and intensive investigation of 250,000 emails, documents
including personal computers ,cell phones and 70 interviews has found the Governor cleared of any wrong doing involving the GW Bridge investigation.

If he decides to run in 16, can't wait to see the GOP and National debates.
This man is nobodies lunch meat.

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Old 03-28-2014, 02:44 PM   #2
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I was just explaining to my son how the Republicans will (for the most part) say he is OK and how the Democrats will (for the most part vsay it was a sham investigation.

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Old 03-28-2014, 02:55 PM   #3
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After an exhaustive and intensive investigation of 250,000 emails, documents
including personal computers ,cell phones and 70 interviews has found the Governor cleared of any wrong doing involving the GW Bridge investigation.
You are talking about the investigation launched by Christie and reviewed by Christie's people before public release?

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You are talking about the investigation launched by Christie and reviewed by Christie's people before public release?

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Sounds familiar . There isn't anything there Spence .
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:57 PM   #5
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You are talking about the investigation launched by Christie and reviewed by Christie's people before public release?

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Yes Spence, investigated by 7 prosecutors, the head a Dem, and an invitation by Christie,
in his 1 and 1/2 hour news conference, to make available whatever any other investigations want.

John R called it correctly.

Do you fear Joe Biden may have to run against him Spence?

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Old 03-29-2014, 02:39 PM   #6
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Do you fear Joe Biden may have to run against him Spence?
There's no way Biden will get the nomination over Clinton...she just pounded the entire GOP field in a Virginia poll.

I've never thought Cristie ordered the thing, but it's interesting how many of his really close people have been implicated. I do think there's still a decent chance he misled when he learned about it.

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Old 03-29-2014, 03:36 PM   #7
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I do think there's still a decent chance he misled when he learned about it.

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This from the guy who will not concede that Hilary "misled" us when she claimed that she fell under sniper fire at an airport in Kosovo or somewhere.

We have irrefutable proof that Hilary lied. You're more concerned about pure speculation against a Republican.

I won't vote for Christie. Even if he didn't know about it, these are his people, the buck stops with him. Same thing as Obama and the IRS...

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Old 03-29-2014, 03:51 PM   #8
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There's no way Biden will get the nomination over Clinton...she just pounded the entire GOP field in a Virginia poll.



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"There's no way Biden will get the nomination over Clinton"

true. It's possible another Obama will come out o nowhere and take it from her, but not 'Plugs the Plagiarist'.

"she just pounded the entire GOP field in a Virginia poll."

30 months before the 2008 election, I bet that same poll had her pounding Senator Obama.

I'm not sure she's beatable in 16. But it's a long way off.
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:31 PM   #9
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I do think there's still a decent chance he misled when he learned about it.

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He fired people immediately and I doubt anybody with his aspirations to become President would be stupid enough to get involved in some cockamaini nonsense.

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I've never thought Cristie ordered the thing, but it's interesting how many of his really close people have been implicated. I do think there's still a decent chance he misled when he learned about it.

-spence
Translation: Sure, Hillary was fired from the House Judiciary working on the Nixon impeachment Watergate scandal because the judiciary chief of staff who hired, then eventually fired her, said "she was a liar. She was an unethical dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee, and the rules of confidentiality." I know . . . I know . . . she tried to deny Nixon counsel by saying that there was no precedent that he had a right to it, and when chief judiciary Zeifman gave her the documents that showed that there WAS precedent for counsel, she kind of hid the documents and continued her . . . uh . . . somewhat innocent ploy, and shouldn't really have been fired . . . somewhat of an overreaction. And, of course, there's all that old Whitewater stuff with various evidences of wrongdoing . . . and so many of her really close people were actually the guilty ones, and somehow dying and what not . . . but couldn't be proved she did anything wrong. . . . And when some files that could show the Clinton's involvement went missing for two years, they magically turned up after the statute of limitations expired. Minor stuff like travelgate was to do about not much. So staff of many years lost their jobs to be replaced by Clinton's people. That's the way the cookie crumbles. And . . . oh, yeah . . . the little white lie about being under fire at Kosovo . . . c'mon . . . And my goodness gracious, the overworked fuss about Benghazzzzzzzziii. I mean, some of her really close people died there. True . . . the story the administration weaved was kind of, sort of, proved not to be . . . accurate. What, at this time, does it matter ???

I, of course, never thought Christie ordered the thing . . . but interesting how many of his really close people have been implicated. Still a chance that he misled when he learned about it.

Of course, no way is there a chance that Hillary ever misled us about any of that old news stuff about her.
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Translation: Sure, Hillary was fired from the House Judiciary working on the Nixon impeachment Watergate scandal because the judiciary chief of staff who hired, then eventually fired her, said "she was a liar. She was an unethical dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee, and the rules of confidentiality." I know . . . I know . . . she tried to deny Nixon counsel by saying that there was no precedent that he had a right to it, and when chief judiciary Zeifman gave her the documents that showed that there WAS precedent for counsel, she kind of hid the documents and continued her . . . uh . . . somewhat innocent ploy, and shouldn't really have been fired . . . somewhat of an overreaction.
I didn't think you of all people would resort to citing a single source story -- which is contradicted by it's own author -- and that has no outside verification.

Funny, from what I read the person quoted earlier said that he didn't fire her and wouldn't have had the power to do so. One would think such actions would be reported to the bar...if they really happened.


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And, of course, there's all that old Whitewater stuff with various evidences of wrongdoing . . . and so many of her really close people were actually the guilty ones, and somehow dying and what not . . . but couldn't be proved she did anything wrong. . . . And when some files that could show the Clinton's involvement went missing for two years, they magically turned up after the statute of limitations expired. Minor stuff like travelgate was to do about not much. So staff of many years lost their jobs to be replaced by Clinton's people. That's the way the cookie crumbles. And . . . oh, yeah . . . the little white lie about being under fire at Kosovo . . . c'mon . . . And my goodness gracious, the overworked fuss about Benghazzzzzzzziii. I mean, some of her really close people died there. True . . . the story the administration weaved was kind of, sort of, proved not to be . . . accurate. What, at this time, does it matter ???
Sweet Jesus, it's going to be a long campaign.

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Of course, no way is there a chance that Hillary ever misled us about any of that old news stuff about her.
The difference is this still is old news...because no evidence of wrongdoing was ever found. If there's a pattern of behavior established perhaps it's of those seeking to bring them down.

Christie will have to stand the test of time.

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There's no way Biden will get the nomination over Clinton...she just pounded the entire GOP field in a Virginia poll.

I've never thought Cristie ordered the thing, but it's interesting how many of his really close people have been implicated. I do think there's still a decent chance he misled when he learned about it.

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He probably didn't order it, but to have his aides do something like this shows that the behavior has been been condoned in the past, and that those involved felt safe doing what they did, and feared no reprisals.

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He probably didn't order it, but to have his aides do something like this shows that the behavior has been been condoned in the past, and that those involved felt safe doing what they did, and feared no reprisals.
He admitted at his news conference that he chose and trusted a few wrong people. I don't know what behavior was condoned in the past, but if they did feel safe and feared no reprisals they were dead wrong, they were fired immediately, unlike Obama's no fire policy with his Administration's screw ups.

Christie is a no nonsense guy who speaks his mind. He is willing to cross the isle if it will benefit the people. He leads and he gets things done. Not bad in a Dem state where before this debacle had a 50s something approval and I think at one time in the 60's after Sandy.

BTW Debuch, kudos on your last post.

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If Christie met a hit man on the sidewalk and "told" him to go murder someone, this same investigation process would clear him of any wrong doing.

There is no paper trail. No recorded statements. So what???
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And the tax dollar paid for it.........what a yoke. Political hooligans.
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Yes, because the two situations are really alike...Good lord...

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Yes, because the two situations are really alike...Good lord...

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Did she lie, Spence? Did she lie?

True, the situations are not alike. In her case, every single person on the planet knows that she lied. In fatty's case, there is absolutely zero evidence that he lied.

The traffic jam is more serious than her lie, people's lives were put at risk as emergency vehicles could not get where they were needed. But we cannot say for sure that he lied.

In her case, we all know (except for you, I guess) she lied, to build up her street cred' I guess. In her words, what does it matter? To you, nothing. Blatant double standard...

We deserve better. There are so many good, decent people out there. We all make mistakes, but we have to set the bar higher.

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another NIXON = CRASH and Burn
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I was about 25 feet from him Friday night. Unfortunatly, it looks like he put weigh back on. He needs to loose weigh for his health (and longevity) as well as his political career. I don't think the American people will elect someone that heavy. He has to also get control of his bullying problem. At this point there is nothing to indicate that he had any involvement in the decision to close the lanes.
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I was about 25 feet from him Friday night. Unfortunatly, it looks like he put weigh back on. He needs to loose weigh for his health (and longevity) as well as his political career. I don't think the American people will elect someone that heavy. He has to also get control of his bullying problem. At this point there is nothing to indicate that he had any involvement in the decision to close the lanes.
Couldn't agree more. It's all about perception now, not substance .
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