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05-25-2016, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
"The inspector general’s review also revealed that hacking attempts forced then-Secretary of State Clinton off email at one point in 2011, though she insists the personal server she used was never breached.
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The audit said a Clinton aide had to shut down the server on Jan. 9, 2011, because he believed “someone was trying to hack us.” Later that day, he said: “We were attacked again so I shut (the server) down for a few min.”
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A few minutes, must have been quite an attack.
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05-25-2016, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
A few minutes, must have been quite an attack.
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Your right, it wasn't much of an attack......considering the only defense they had was shutting down the server for a few minutes.
I bet that showed them.....
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05-25-2016, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Your right, it wasn't much of an attack......considering the only defense they had was shutting down the server for a few minutes.
I bet that showed them.....
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As a propeller head you know any server will come under attack from time to time. Just people fishing...
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05-25-2016, 07:45 PM
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As a propeller head you know any server will come under attack from time to time. Just people fishing...
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Ugh....
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05-25-2016, 04:42 PM
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Why did she have the server at her house in the first place? Seems to me it was only to have the ability to destroy evidence if need be.
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05-25-2016, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Why did she have the server at her house in the first place? Seems to me it was only to have the ability to destroy evidence if need be.
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If your intent was to hide evidence you wouldn't use email...ever.
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05-25-2016, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
If your intent was to hide evidence you wouldn't use email...ever.
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Or if you did you would just delete 30,000 of them . You're a piece of work Jeff .
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05-25-2016, 06:11 PM
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exactly..
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05-25-2016, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Or if you did you would just delete 30,000 of them . You're a piece of work Jeff .
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She has no legal or ethical obligation to submit personal emails to the public record.
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05-26-2016, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
She has no legal or ethical obligation to anything
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fixed it
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05-25-2016, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
If your intent was to hide evidence you wouldn't use email...ever.
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...and there's another check mark in the "To Stupid" column
Maybe you shouldn't be in her corner.....with your defense she's starting to look like a regular Barney Fife
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05-25-2016, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
...and there's another check mark in the "To Stupid" column
Maybe you shouldn't be in her corner.....with your defense she's starting to look like a regular Barney Fife
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Story hasn't really changed over the past year though. Shouldn't have done it, she admits this, no harm we're aware of, no malicious motive and a lot has shown to be overblown inter-agency infighting.
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05-26-2016, 04:51 AM
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Unfortunately people are missing the point. SHE BROKE FEDERAL LAW. Why all the confusion, everyone knows if you cant trust someone with the small stuff, you can't trust them with the big stuff.
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05-26-2016, 05:58 AM
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Unfortunately people are missing the point. SHE BROKE FEDERAL LAW. Why all the confusion, everyone knows if you cant trust someone with the small stuff, you can't trust them with the big stuff.
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Exactly, and at a minimum ,you will see the information that the FBI has, which in an honest administration would bring an indictment , released before the national Democratic convention .
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05-26-2016, 07:25 AM
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Unfortunately people are missing the point. SHE BROKE FEDERAL LAW. Why all the confusion, everyone knows if you cant trust someone with the small stuff, you can't trust them with the big stuff.
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The report doesn't say she broke federal law, it says that the working assumption -- that copying a state.gov address on emails -- wasn't sufficient to satisfy State Department procedure to comply with the National Records Act. They wanted the emails to be printed instead.
Further the report states that both the NARA and OIG agreed "Clinton's production of 55,000 pages of emails mitigated her failure to properly preserve emails that qualified as Federal records during her tenure and to surrender such records on her departure."
So what the report says is that they would have liked them to be printed when she left, but her follow on action was good enough.
You can read the report here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/...039/?tid=a_inl
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05-26-2016, 08:53 AM
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The report states that she acted without permission, did not ask to have her own server, and if she did, they would have said no.
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05-26-2016, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
The report states that she acted without permission, did not ask to have her own server, and if she did, they would have said no.
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Irrelevent details, a fabrication that is part of the vast right wing conspiracy (likely funded by the Koch brothers) to take her down.
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05-26-2016, 10:14 AM
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The report states that she acted without permission, did not ask to have her own server, and if she did, they would have said no.
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That doesn't necessarily make it a violation, it's a grey area they cleaned up after she left. The report also states that John Kerry is the first Sec State to have a state.gov address.
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05-26-2016, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
That doesn't necessarily make it a violation, it's a grey area they cleaned up after she left.
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How about a violation of Common Sense...
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05-26-2016, 10:45 AM
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The report also states that John Kerry is the first Sec State to have a state.gov address.
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Moot.....
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05-26-2016, 06:45 AM
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Spence will now say that breaking federal law is acceptable because people have done it before Hillary.
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06-01-2016, 07:20 AM
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http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/20...tm_campaign=nl
The article ends with:
Now that a non-partisan source has said Clinton broke the rules, it will descend into, “Ok, she may have technically violated the rules but she didn’t do anything illegal!” Let’s see how long it takes before that sets in.
I think Spence had already set it in long before the article was written.
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06-13-2016, 05:44 AM
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Maybe if the FBI wasnt overburdened with Hillary's criminal investigation things would be different in Orlando......
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06-13-2016, 06:09 AM
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Maybe if the FBI wasnt overburdened with Hillary's criminal investigation things would be different in Orlando......
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What would compel you to make such a reprehensible remark?
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06-13-2016, 06:58 AM
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What would compel you to make such a reprehensible remark?
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Isn't it infuriating when someone makes an illogical connection ?
I think I'm becoming liberal
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06-13-2016, 08:29 AM
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I think I'm becoming liberal
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Well, at least you'll never be accused of being a racist
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06-13-2016, 01:13 PM
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Well, at least you'll never be accused of being a racist
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Nor will you ever be asked to accept responsibility for anything you do...
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06-13-2016, 11:11 AM
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Isn't it infuriating when someone makes an illogical connection ?
I think I'm becoming liberal
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Deplorable.
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07-05-2016, 10:44 AM
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FBI drops the ball IMO
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/05/fbi-d...ns-emails.html
as her path is fixed by corruption plain as day
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07-05-2016, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
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How can you suggest charges when there isn't a case you can prosecute?
Most important is it looks like there was no evidence of mal intent or attempts to cover anything up.
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