Great Job Red Hats

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I do realize what you, and the leftist corporate media and the Progressive, Socialist, Democrats have been trying to do for four plus years to Trump. Perhaps, if y'all had been honest and objectively factual instead of lying, spinning, insinuating, conjecturing, constantly painting a damning narrative, you could have persuaded those of us who you also labeled with ugly or demeaning epithets, that what you claimed was true. But taking the nasty, deceitful, tactics, you "messaged" to us that, on the contrary, your claims had no substance and were more political propaganda than worthwhile information.

And thereby inflamed an already growing divide between the citizens of this nation. Y'all constantly blamed and marginalized the rest of us for everything, signalling that you were pure and righteous and that we were tainted, ugly, dangerous traitors to whatever you claimed was "American." And y'all are still doing that. Doing what right wingers supposedly did in the past, but with a little more credibility because Progressive, socialist, leftism is essentially godless and dismissive of the founding and its values and authoritarian in system.

Welcome to what you have helped to create.

Look at The Fool on the Hill
He’s not what he claims to be
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Look at The Fool on the Hill
He’s not what he claims to be
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

That's a deke. There are a lot of Fools on the Hill. The vast majority of politicians for instance.

What do you claim to be?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

This is more of your baseless, hateful, destructive, and divisive rhetoric. He condemned the violence at the capitol. "We love you" His "Very fine people" comment, as he specifically said, IN THE VERY SAME, press gathering, did not refer to the Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists. As I've said, you're a liar, and you repeat the same lies over and over even when they've been proven false. And he has condemned, disavowed, racism and white supremacy many times (at least 20 times captured on video) yet he is accused of never doing so--your Proud Boys reference was a response to the words used by Wallace in the debate when he asked Trump if he was willing to ask the white supremacists to "stand down." To which Trump replied "sure." And Biden threw in the Proud Boys. So Trump told them, misquoting or bumbling Wallace's "stand down" as stand back and stand by. And after the exchange in which Biden kept butting in and leading the conversation away from Trump's "sure," Wallace cut it off before any clarification could be made or the "sure" could be more direct. But the question directed by Wallace to Trump was unprofessional. A professional would have known that Trump had several times condemned White Supremacists. Or he should have done a quick check before inserting the question into his debate topics. Once again, you can interpret his thoghts to match your point, because Trump, being polite, would never interrupt to make sure he made his point.

Your assertion that Trump wants violence and chaos is pure inflammatory propaganda. He's one of the few modern Presidents that has not got us into some war. He has been criticized for being too conciliatory. He has condemned violence, white supremacy, racism and bigotry. He has attempted to negotiate and make deals, not force behavior. And violence and chaos would have hurt his efforts to make trade deals, improve the economy, and create a task force to fight the pandemic, provide the equipment that should already have been in place (three years), and create a warp speed process to create a vaccine.

You can normalize Trump's behavior all you want, he is headed for the dustbin of history, to be listed as the worst president ever.

Trump organized and incited this riot. His supporters proceeded to kill a Capitol Police Officer. This may not have occurred on 5th Avenue, but Trump is responsible for this homicide. He bragged that he could get away with this exact thing. Will we let him?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You can normalize Trump's behavior all you want, he is headed for the dustbin of history, to be listed as the worst president ever.

Trump organized and incited this riot. His supporters proceeded to kill a Capitol Police Officer. This may not have occurred on 5th Avenue, but Trump is responsible for this homicide. He bragged that he could get away with this exact thing. Will we let him?

I wouldn't say organized but certainly incited insurrection along with his troop of sycophants. What's truly frightening is it appears some may have been trying to capture and kill Pence and other ranking officials. They even built a makeshift gallows.