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07-20-2022, 09:05 AM
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paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they can’t build $600,000
Their mostly residents who work in mass ! corrections officers have doing for years .. I know many who it just like I know many who live in RI and work in Mass prisons better pay and benefits then Ri. We call these border towns mass settlements and mass residents have drove the mile to also buy cigarettes and booze in NH
But no one is moving to NH for jobs. That’s the Truth
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07-20-2022, 09:07 AM
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paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they can’t build $600,000
Their mostly residents who work in mass ! corrections officers have doing for years .. I know many who it just like I know many who live in RI and work in Mass prisons better pay and benefits then Ri. We call these border towns mass settlements and mass residents have drove the mile to also buy cigarettes and booze in NH
But no one is moving to NH for jobs
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show me the data please, which says most people in all those areas work in Mass. Because you made it up.
Liberty Mutual has TONS of jobs in NH. Tons of data science and white collar jobs. You just make chit up.
And now, most white collar jobs can be done at home. People can work and live anywhere, which will
lead to many more people
leaving blue states for red states. It’s just beginning.
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07-20-2022, 09:25 AM
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And now, most white collar jobs can be done at home. People can work and live anywhere, which will
lead to many more people
leaving blue states for red states. It’s just beginning.
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Which proves my point. That the opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states. If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states which taxed their residents and used the $ for schools/infrastructure, etc. That was reflected in the much much higher GDP per capita. Tech (WFH) may help the red states somewhat but they still will have a lot of shortcomings due to not having the $ to improve things (although the richer blue cites/counties will be better off than the red counties).
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07-20-2022, 11:44 AM
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If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states
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good grief,,,,,
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07-20-2022, 12:40 PM
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good grief,,,,,
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there’s no white collar jobs in charlotte NC. None.
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07-20-2022, 02:01 PM
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good grief,,,,,
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typical snarky comeback.
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07-20-2022, 01:13 PM
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Which proves my point. That the opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states. If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states which taxed their residents and used the $ for schools/infrastructure, etc. That was reflected in the much much higher GDP per capita. Tech (WFH) may help the red states somewhat but they still will have a lot of shortcomings due to not having the $ to improve things (although the richer blue cites/counties will be better off than the red counties).
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"opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states"
Tell that to everyone working in Atlanta and Charlotte NC.
Paul, there are places in red states where I'd NEVER want to live. But there are also places in red states that are very cheap and have a high quality of life. There are exactly zero places in blue states (that I know of) which are very cheap and offer a good quality of life for normal families.
Can you name one nice suburb in a liberal state, which has super low taxes and yet offers a high quality of life? Places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, etc??? I don't know of one single such place. Can you name any?
Historically, large companies had reasons to locate in big cities, which tend to be liberal. Nowadays, people and companies are making different choices.
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07-20-2022, 02:00 PM
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"opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states"
Tell that to everyone working in Atlanta and Charlotte NC. You mean those blue cities?
Paul, there are places in red states where I'd NEVER want to live. But there are also places in red states that are very cheap and have a high quality of life. There are exactly zero places in blue states (that I know of) which are very cheap and offer a good quality of life for normal families.
Can you name one nice suburb in a liberal state, which has super low taxes and yet offers a high quality of life? Places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, etc??? I don't know of one single such place. Can you name any?
Historically, large companies had reasons to locate in big cities, which tend to be liberal. Nowadays, people and companies are making different choices.
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You're asking about the liberal cities? They have some of the highest quality of life in the red states. NC is equally divided 1/3 R, D and Ind. The legislature is gerrymandered to be red.
You keep naming liberal cities and using those as examples of places with high quality of life but are unable to show red states that lead the country in the "good" (like Pete and I have) categories other than low taxes.
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07-20-2022, 10:15 AM
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More than 100 thousand New Hampshire residents work in Massachusetts.
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07-20-2022, 06:32 PM
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Jim, do you realize CT has a higher percentage of conservatives than NH which even has more liberals.
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07-20-2022, 06:56 PM
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show me the data please, which says most people in all those areas work in Mass. Because you made it up.
About 16 Percent of New Hampshire Residents Work in Massachusetts
October 15, 2017
If you commute to Mass., you’ve got 123,000 colleagues
Commuter Central: New Hampshire Towns that Border Massachusetts
Friday, May 29th, 2020Verani Realty
Its only gotten worse. Do you ever do any research?
Ya ok keep believing in your fantasy
I live here
It’s the same for towns outside of Boston once commuter rail trains stations were built house prices doubled.
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07-20-2022, 08:46 PM
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show me the data please, which says most people in all those areas work in Mass. Because you made it up.
About 16 Percent of New Hampshire Residents Work in Massachusetts
October 15, 2017
If you commute to Mass., you’ve got 123,000 colleagues
Commuter Central: New Hampshire Towns that Border Massachusetts
Friday, May 29th, 2020Verani Realty
Its only gotten worse. Do you ever do any research?
Ya ok keep believing in your fantasy
I live here
It’s the same for towns outside of Boston once commuter rail trains stations were built house prices doubled.
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you said “most” NH residents in the towns i mentioned ( including Bow, which is upstate), work in Mass.
is 16% “most”? are you that bad at math?
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07-21-2022, 08:05 AM
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you said “most” NH residents in the towns i mentioned ( including Bow, which is upstate), work in Mass.
is 16% “most”? are you that bad at math?
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Like i said do you do any research
Bow is not up state
Why you would use this example it’s far from random ,
Bow NH has a massive population of 8299 is an hour from Boston and 94% white median home 446k. Total number of homes and apartments 2731
And from 2000 to 2001 total appreciation was 92.8 % There #1 in NH and 4th in the nation
Yep you destroyed the 15% of of NH residents commute to MA
Exeter is a medium-sized town located in the state of New Hampshire. With a population of 16,049 people and three constituent neighborhoods, Exeter is the 18th largest community in New Hampshire.
MEDIAN HOME VALUE:
$467,105
NUMBER OF HOMES AND APARTMENTS:
6,693
Since 2000:
2000 Q1 - 2022 Q1 101.62 TOTAL APPRECIATION And 2 nd in the state 5th in the nation
This is from NH government they also must be making stuff up! It’s always the case when your suggestion fall apart
Nearly all (94.6 percent) New Hampshire residents who commute out‐of‐state travel to work in one of the three bordering states.
Among those New Hampshire residents who leave the state for work, 78.6 percent travel to Massachusetts, 8.5 percent travel to work in Vermont, and 7.5 percent travel to work in Maine.
Just over 300 resident
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07-21-2022, 08:10 AM
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Like i said do you do any research
Bow is not up state
Why you would use this example it’s far from random ,
Bow NH has a massive population of 8299 is an hour from Boston and 94% white median home 446k. Total number of homes and apartments 2731
And from 2000 to 2001 total appreciation was 92.8 % There #1 in NH and 4th in the nation
Yep you destroyed the 15% of of NH residents commute to MA
Exeter is a medium-sized town located in the state of New Hampshire. With a population of 16,049 people and three constituent neighborhoods, Exeter is the 18th largest community in New Hampshire.
MEDIAN HOME VALUE:
$467,105
NUMBER OF HOMES AND APARTMENTS:
6,693
Since 2000:
2000 Q1 - 2022 Q1 101.62 TOTAL APPRECIATION And 2 nd in the state 5th in the nation
This is from NH government they also must be making stuff up! It’s always the case when your suggestion fall apart
Nearly all (94.6 percent) New Hampshire residents who commute out‐of‐state travel to work in one of the three bordering states.
Among those New Hampshire residents who leave the state for work, 78.6 percent travel to Massachusetts, 8.5 percent travel to work in Vermont, and 7.5 percent travel to work in Maine.
Just over 300 resident
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you said “most” in those towns work in Mass. then you posted that 16% work in Mass.
Is 16% most? or is it a small
minority?
you lied. and you showed us how mad you are at math.
you’re proving my point. places like Bow are booming because people
realize they don’t need to pay blue state taxes to have a great quality of life. Bow is proof of that.
you exactly made my point for
me, unless you can show that everyone in Bow works in Mass.
Bow is 70 miles from boston. i’d like to see you do that in an hour during rush hour. you got one thing right, it’s not upstate, i was wrong. everything else you got wrong.
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07-21-2022, 11:24 AM
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Nearly all (94.6 percent) New Hampshire residents who commute out‐of‐state travel to work in one of the three bordering states.
Among those New Hampshire residents who leave the state for work, 78.6 percent travel to Massachusetts, 8.5 percent travel to work in Vermont, and 7.5 percent travel to work in Maine.
Just over 300 resident
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talk about moving the goalposts.
First you said most NH residents in those towns work in Mass.
Now you’re saying that among NH residents who work out of state, most work in a neighboring state.
No sh*t, Sherlock. I never said people in NH work in Alaska.
16% isn’t most wayne. it’s an exception, not the rule.
NH is a cheap place, yet people
want to live there.
Please name one liberal state that has nice towns to live in, with very low state and local taxes? Please name just one.
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07-20-2022, 08:31 PM
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MAGA y MAGA
Marjorie Taylor Greene: “There are so many people who don’t vote Republican because Republicans don’t do what they say.”
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07-21-2022, 10:59 AM
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Jim’s trying to prove his point by claiming that a state where every politician D or R takes the “Pledge” and that went Biden in 2020 is staunchly Republican.
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07-21-2022, 11:19 AM
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Jim’s trying to prove his point by claiming that a state where every politician D or R takes the “Pledge” and that went Biden in 2020 is staunchly Republican.
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NH has no state sales tax, and no state income tax. So i’m pretty comfortable saying the state there runs itself as a right leaning place. I never said it was OK or SC.
Yet they create a quality of life in NH that’s so desirable, that a tiny town there has one of the hottest real
estate markets in the country.
My point is this…you don’t always get what you pay for. The statistics that WDMSO posted prove my point precisely.
Naturally you responded to something that i never said. Because even as stupid as you are. you know i’m right.
What services are the “average” people living in NH not getting, that i get in CT thanks to the much higher taxes i pay?
none of you can name a single thing we get for that extra $$ in CT.
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07-21-2022, 02:16 PM
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New Hampshire
The Political Climate in New Hampshire is Leaning liberal.
In New Hampshire 52.7% of the people voted for the Democratic Party in the last presidential election, 45.4% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.9% voted for an Independent Party.
In the last Presidential election, New Hampshire remained moderately Democratic, 52.7% to 45.4%.
New Hampshire voted Democratic in the last five Presidential elections, after voting Republican in 2000
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07-21-2022, 03:54 PM
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Please name one liberal state that has nice towns to live in, with very low state and local taxes? Please name just one.
Yep still thinking people live where they live because of taxes and politics. But your not radicalized nope
you’re proving my point. places like Bow are booming because people
realize they don’t need to pay blue state taxes to have a great quality of life. Bow is proof of that.
Like I said you live in a fantasy you were fed a town that you thought fit your narrative that has a whopping 2777 homes
Even my town with its 7100 homes in 2000 Q1 - 2022 Q1 had TOTAL APPRECIATION 127.65%
what’s the old saying a rising tide floats all boats
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07-21-2022, 04:39 PM
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Please name one liberal state that has nice towns to live in, with very low state and local taxes? Please name just one.
Yep still thinking people live where they live because of taxes and politics. But your not radicalized nope
you’re proving my point. places like Bow are booming because people
realize they don’t need to pay blue state taxes to have a great quality of life. Bow is proof of that.
Like I said you live in a fantasy you were fed a town that you thought fit your narrative that has a whopping 2777 homes
Even my town with its 7100 homes in 2000 Q1 - 2022 Q1 had TOTAL APPRECIATION 127.65%
what’s the old saying a rising tide floats all boats
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Bow was one town. I also
mentioned hollis, brookline, bedford, amherst. i also could have mentioned any of the suburbs of charlotte or nashville.
can you name one town in. liberal state that’s a cheap place to live and offers a high quality of life? insulting me doesn’t answer the question.
people don’t move directly for politics. but they move for cost versus value. red places offer better value, you can it snet that americans believe that, if you look at where they’re moving to.
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07-22-2022, 05:32 AM
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Meanwhile the party that claims to be for freedom in the past week has:
- 209 House Republicans voted against abortion rights
- 205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality
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07-22-2022, 05:45 AM
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- 205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
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wouldn't abortion be the exact opposite of reproductive care? just curious....could we start euthanizing old people and call it geriatric care? I read that Canada is going to start euthanizing people for mental illness...so that's what?...psychiatric care?
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07-22-2022, 06:07 AM
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Meanwhile the party that claims to be for freedom in the past week has:
- 209 House Republicans voted against abortion rights
- 205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality
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being opposed to infanticide, isn’t inconsistent with being for individual liberty.
Your simpleminded brain only allows you to look at this from the mother’s point of view. That’s clearly one point of view to consider. But there’s another point of view that’s also part of this
You’re callous enough to ignore the perspective of the innocent, defenseless baby. That’s your problem, not my problem.
Caring about protecting an in i ent baby, is in no way i consistent with conservatism
Given what’s likely about to happen to your side, perhaps you should be worried about what your side believes, and less worried about what my side believes
Here’s a true hypocrisy. The party that claims to care about choice, denies school choice. The party that claims to care about women, insists that they compete physically against men.
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07-22-2022, 06:51 AM
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being opposed to infanticide, isn’t inconsistent with being for individual liberty.
Your simpleminded brain only allows you to look at this from the mother’s point of view. That’s clearly one point of view to consider. But there’s another point of view that’s also part of this
You’re callous enough to ignore the perspective of the innocent, defenseless baby. That’s your problem, not my problem.
Caring about protecting an in i ent baby, is in no way i consistent with conservatism
Given what’s likely about to happen to your side, perhaps you should be worried about what your side believes, and less worried about what my side believes
Here’s a true hypocrisy. The party that claims to care about choice, denies school choice. The party that claims to care about women, insists that they compete physically against men.
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Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.
The Trumplican party is far more extreme than Americans
205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality
Trump is planning on being the 2024 candidate and can win the GQP primary
You ain’t seen nothing yet
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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07-22-2022, 07:01 AM
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Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.
The Trumplican party is far more extreme than Americans
205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality
Trump is planning on being the 2024 candidate and can win the GQP primary
You ain’t seen nothing yet
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im not a victim. my side is getting ready to pulverize your side. What did i say, that you could possibly infer as my playing the victim card? i mean, how could you possibly conclude that?
i agree 100% that trump running in 2024 would be bad for the gop.
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07-22-2022, 07:21 AM
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im not a victim.
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what is GQP? just curious...sounds like pete believes you are a member....
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07-22-2022, 07:58 AM
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im not a victim. my side is getting ready to pulverize your side. What did i say, that you could possibly infer as my playing the victim card? i mean, how could you possibly conclude that?
i agree 100% that trump running in 2024 would be bad for the gop.
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So you think we better run to the polls like Josh Hawley ran from the insurrection?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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07-22-2022, 07:20 AM
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Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.
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you really need some psychological counseling....
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07-22-2022, 08:13 AM
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you really need some psychological counseling....
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the voices he must hear…
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