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01-26-2013, 02:16 PM
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Hillary
This is direct quote from her after her '96 Balkans visit:
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
We now know that the above statement was a complete and total LIE.
And we're supposed to except what she said during the Benghazi hearings as truth?That would be like handing a crack-head a 20 spot and he/she promises to spend the money on food.How can anything this woman says be trusted?
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01-26-2013, 03:09 PM
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I'm not sure that really matters. A lot of fairly honest people are guilty of sensationalizing things along the way. It would be more disconcerting if it was important...
We didn't really learn that much new in the Clinton testimony. It's been investigated to death...
-spence
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01-26-2013, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I'm not sure that really matters. A lot of fairly honest people are guilty of sensationalizing things along the way. It would be more disconcerting if it was important...
We didn't really learn that much new in the Clinton testimony. It's been investigated to death...
-spence
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"I'm not sure that really matters"... Perfect !!!!!
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01-26-2013, 04:51 PM
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Isn't a lie a lie anymore?
"What does it matter?" She says.
It matters to me.
Isn't it enough that it matters?If it matters to me it must surely matter to the families of those murdered?
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01-26-2013, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by basswipe
Isn't a lie a lie anymore?
"What does it matter?" She says.
It matters to me.
Isn't it enough that it matters?If it matters to me it must surely matter to the families of those murdered?
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you scream "what does it matter"....when you've run out of talking points and you are cornered and have no where left to go...last bastion of a congenital...well...you know ![Smilie](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/smile.gif) .....it sure mattered when they were trying to convince everyone that a movie trailer that noone saw was responsible.....
you should read this...it's brilliant
"A couple of days later, it fell to the 45th president-in-waiting to encapsulate the ethos of the age in one deft sound bite: What difference does it make? Hillary Clinton’s instantly famous riposte at the Benghazi hearings is such a perfect distillation that it surely deserves to be the national motto of the United States. They should put it on Paul Krugman’s trillion-dollar coin, and in the presidential oath:
“Do you solemnly swear to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States?”
“Sure. What difference, at this point, does it make?”
Hillary’s cocksure sneer to Senator Johnson of Wisconsin made it explicit. At a basic level, the “difference” is the difference between truth and falsity, but the subtext took it a stage further: No matter what actually happened that night in Benghazi, you poor sad loser Republicans will never succeed in imposing that reality and its consequences on this administration.
Obama is the ultimate reality show, and real reality can’t compete. Stalin famously scoffed, “How many divisions has the Pope?” Secretary Clinton was more audacious: How many divisions has reality? Not enough."
http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/338863
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01-26-2013, 06:05 PM
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you scream "what does it matter"....when you've run out of talking points and you are cornered and have no where left to go...last bastion of a congenital...well...you know ![Smilie](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/smile.gif) .....it sure mattered when they were trying to convince everyone that a movie trailer that noone saw was responsible.....
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Scream? Scream? Sir, I'm not screaming.
Perhaps the scream is in your head. You have been really off today.
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Hillary’s cocksure sneer to Senator Johnson of Wisconsin made it explicit. At a basic level, the “difference” is the difference between truth and falsity, but the subtext took it a stage further: No matter what actually happened that night in Benghazi, you poor sad loser Republicans will never succeed in imposing that reality and its consequences on this administration.
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Yes, Sen. Johnson the man who pandered for the camera to score talking point and then shamelessly claimed her emotion was staged to gain sympathy.
What a pathetic and shallow thing to even contemplate.
I'm curious if these Senators have even read the internal reports, as their questions would indicate no. At the least FOX and the National Review have their quotes to report against.
-spence
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01-28-2013, 08:46 AM
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Great interview on CBS with the bs'r and chief .
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01-28-2013, 08:58 AM
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Great interview on CBS with the bs'r and chief .
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LOL, yeah Buck a real lovevest. First 20 mins they just kissed each
others butt. Sickening. Last 5 min they got a, can't even call it a softball,
more like a sponge ball question about Benghazy which they just
skipped over.
Not worth the electricity or time to watch the show.
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" Choose Life "
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01-28-2013, 10:58 AM
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Love is special.
It must really pain some that Hillary will likely be regarded as one of the top Secretaries of State and will be formidable in 2016.
-spence
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01-28-2013, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
It must really pain some that Hillary will likely be regarded as one of the top Secretaries of State and will be formidable in 2016.
-spence
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Yes, the top Sec of State, infamous for feigning taking enemy fire, and doing nothing to prevent or save our Bengahzy Embassador from being murdered. Very impressive.
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" Choose Life "
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01-28-2013, 12:06 PM
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"What does it matter"?
Beside the ones that gave their lives over in Benghazi?
Because of her lies, there is a man sitting in jail right now and people threatening to take his and his families lives.
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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01-28-2013, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Love is special.
It must really pain some that Hillary will likely be regarded as one of the top Secretaries of State and will be formidable in 2016.
-spence
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In what aspects is she one of the top Secretaries of State? What actions did she take that place her on that list?
It's easy to consistently make ridiculous statements when there never supported.
One thing that pains me is that gullible people believe every word that comes out of a politician's mouth.
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01-28-2013, 12:41 PM
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Love is special.
It must really pain some that Hillary will likely be regarded as one of the top Secretaries of State and will be formidable in 2016.
-spence
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You should see a doctor I told you !
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01-28-2013, 12:19 PM
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What I don't get was that "she took full responsibility" (in her own words)
but where was the appropriate form of punishment ? I don't get it? all you have to do is "take responsibility" (whatever that means) and then move on with your daily life?
If your kid killed your neighbors dog and he said " I did it, I take full responsibility, I am sorry" There is normally some form of punishment or reparation he is forced to make. I don't see it in her case. Just claiming to take "responsibly" is not reparation for the act or non-act.
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01-28-2013, 12:42 PM
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What I don't get was that "she took full responsibility" (in her own words)
but where was the appropriate form of punishment ? I don't get it? all you have to do is "take responsibility" (whatever that means) and then move on with your daily life?
If your kid killed your neighbors dog and he said " I did it, I take full responsibility, I am sorry" There is normally some form of punishment or reparation he is forced to make. I don't see it in her case. Just claiming to take "responsibly" is not reparation for the act or non-act.
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It's easy to take responsibility without consequences. She's awesome
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01-29-2013, 08:11 AM
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CBS had a great day Sunday beginning with Charles Osgood interviewing Spence's favorite anti-American, American Constitutional Law Professor...I think his name was Professor Forked Tongue-In-Cheek...probably native american or something...anyway, he, in a not so tongue-in-cheek manner proceeded to explain why current America should have little or no regard for and certainly should not be bound by the ideals and principles that the country was founded on and even less so to the tattered old rag Constitution thingy, no doubt to nodding approval of progressives across the nation....
then, of course, the shameless infomercial featuring the poster children for the destruction and remaking of America....smiling, and preening and convincingly reading the teleprompters behind what's his face's head...reminded me of the original Bill/Hillary 60 Minutes set up/puff piece interview where we learned that Bill had caused some pain in his marriage but that he'd never do it again....
strange times...... ![Uhuh](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/nod.gif)
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01-29-2013, 09:15 AM
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A little something on the lighter side.You do have to admit there's an uncanny resemblance.
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01-29-2013, 01:57 PM
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A little something on the lighter side.You do have to admit there's an uncanny resemblance.
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he he he he!
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02-01-2013, 02:11 PM
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he he he he!
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"I am the great CORNHOLEO!"
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01-30-2013, 09:12 AM
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Mission Accomplished ![BigThumbUp](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/biggthumpup.gif)
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02-01-2013, 04:45 PM
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Liveshot is on the case now, it's only going to get worse
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04-24-2013, 08:41 AM
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Benghazi is coming back to hang her and this administration. She perjured herself and there now documents with her signature on it proving it.
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04-24-2013, 03:35 PM
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Benghazi is coming back to hang her and this administration. She perjured herself and there now documents with her signature on it proving it.
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Or so the partisan investgation limited to the House GOP via FOX News has told you? Interesting how the non-partisan group investigating the same thing came to a different conclusion.
-spence
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04-24-2013, 03:58 PM
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Or so the partisan investgation limited to the House GOP via FOX News has told you? Interesting how the non-partisan group investigating the same thing came to a different conclusion.
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Wrong again. i didn't hear it from Fox. Her signature is on some pretty relevant papers Spence. Perjury is ok with you I take it .
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04-24-2013, 04:01 PM
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Wrong again. i didn't hear it from Fox. Her signature is on some pretty relevant papers Spence. Perjury is ok with you I take it .
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From what I understand it's typical for a lot of communications coming from the State department to be sent as they were from the Secretary...it's just a matter of business. I doubt you have any new information that indicates Hillary was personally aware of this...as previous non-partisan investigations have already concluded.
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04-24-2013, 04:25 PM
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From what I understand it's typical for a lot of communications coming from the State department to be sent as they were from the Secretary...it's just a matter of business. I doubt you have any new information that indicates Hillary was personally aware of this...as previous non-partisan investigations have already concluded.
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CBS no doubt ![Smilie](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/smile.gif) Did I just hear a Jay Carney echo ?
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04-24-2013, 04:34 PM
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previous non-partisan investigations have already concluded.
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of course, because investigations always reach the right conclusion
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04-24-2013, 08:35 PM
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From what I understand...
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This and similar other phrases always preface your replies that are full of spin or unsubstantiated opinions.
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04-25-2013, 06:02 AM
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Or so the partisan investgation limited to the House GOP via FOX News has told you? Interesting how the non-partisan group investigating the same thing came to a different conclusion.
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Spence, wrong as usual...she said, under oath, that she never personally saw any requests for any extra security from the diplomats. There is physical, tangible proof that she lied through her teeth.
Sorry this comes from Fox. Not many other outlets are reporting on this, you see..
Darrell Issa: Hillary Clinton ?wrong? on Benghazi - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com
4 people are dead Spence. Fair to say that the administration bungled this from start to finish (denied the extra security, blamed the attack on a youtibe video, now doing everything to avoid talkingbaout it.
They'll rake her over the coals a bit, but it won't hurt her approval ratings much, there are too many people like you out there who don't care when a liberal is guilty of incompetence (which at least contributed to the deaths of 4 superb Americans) and perjury.
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04-25-2013, 07:30 AM
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Spence, wrong as usual...she said, under oath, that she never personally saw any requests for any extra security from the diplomats. There is physical, tangible proof that she lied through her teeth.
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Where's the proof?
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