martha’s vineyard hypocrisy

[Pete F.]

They left Venezuela months ago and traversed Central America on bus, train, and foot. Then, famously, they flew to Martha’s Vineyard on private planes and ferried to the mainland to stay, for a time, on a military base.

Now, the Martha’s Vineyard migrants are achieving some semblance of stability, or at least striving to do so. Forty-seven of them have found housing in Massachusetts — in Lowell, Brockton, Stoughton, Provincetown, and other towns on Cape Cod, according to Iván Espinoza-Madrigal, the head of Lawyers for Civil Rights.

Four have even returned to Martha’s Vineyard, where the group first landed on Sept. 14, according to Rachel Self, a lawyer on the island who has assisted the migrants since their arrival. (Two of the 49 migrants have moved to New York.)

Meanwhile, their prospects for remaining in the United States long term have received a boost from a Texas law enforcement official.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

They left Venezuela months ago and traversed Central America on bus, train, and foot. Then, famously, they flew to Martha’s Vineyard on private planes and ferried to the mainland to stay, for a time, on a military base.

Now, the Martha’s Vineyard migrants are achieving some semblance of stability, or at least striving to do so. Forty-seven of them have found housing in Massachusetts — in Lowell, Brockton, Stoughton, Provincetown, and other towns on Cape Cod, according to Iván Espinoza-Madrigal, the head of Lawyers for Civil Rights.

Four have even returned to Martha’s Vineyard, where the group first landed on Sept. 14, according to Rachel Self, a lawyer on the island who has assisted the migrants since their arrival. (Two of the 49 migrants have moved to New York.)

Meanwhile, their prospects for remaining in the United States long term have received a boost from a Texas law enforcement official.
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that’s great. I always say there’s nothing smarter than rewarding people for breaking the rules, while those who are following the rules pay a harsh penalty. It’s brilliant. Just brilliant. Let’s tell our kids, if you’re waiting in a long line, cut the line, the people who got there first have no rights whatsoever.

i have a neighbor who was here in a student visa, started a masonry business, had a few employees. He wanted to stay after his visa ran out, he hired lawyers, did everything the right way. He didn’t luck out, had to go back to albania for two years to wait for the chance to come back legally.

He played by the rules, and suffered as a result. Liberals, I guess, would say he’s a sucker for doing so.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

that’s great. I always say there’s nothing smarter than rewarding people for breaking the rules, while those who are following the rules pay a harsh penalty. It’s brilliant. Just brilliant. Let’s tell our kids, if you’re waiting in a long line, cut the line, the people who got there first have no rights whatsoever.

i have a neighbor who was here in a student visa, started a masonry business, had a few employees. He wanted to stay after his visa ran out, he hired lawyers, did everything the right way. He didn’t luck out, had to go back to albania for two years to wait for the chance to come back legally.

He played by the rules, and suffered as a result. Liberals, I guess, would say he’s a sucker for doing so.

If only Ron had followed the rules, we wouldn't have to see another bleeding heart/angry Jim post. Do you wake up angry Jim? Do you skip breakfast to get this forum opened to see where you need to focus your anger? I pop in to amuse myself over the never ending circular debates, some threads going off in several different directions. Man I'd love to see you all sit down in a room and see how different the tone and hopefully civility might be; the internet is a great place to post without consequences. Well unless your name is DJT, then you need to start your own media platform to spread your lies.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

If only Ron had followed the rules, we wouldn't have to see another bleeding heart/angry Jim post. Do you wake up angry Jim? Do you skip breakfast to get this forum opened to see where you need to focus your anger? I pop in to amuse myself over the never ending circular debates, some threads going off in several different directions. Man I'd love to see you all sit down in a room and see how different the tone and hopefully civility might be; the internet is a great place to post without consequences. Well unless your name is DJT, then you need to start your own media platform to spread your lies.

what rule did ron break? so there a rule that says that illegals have to stay in FL?

“i pop in to amuse myself”

i love that. you don’t contribute the way others do, just to amuse yourself. you’re better than us. you see. You keep repeating this nonsense, like you’re desperately trying to convince us it’s true.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

that’s great. I always say there’s nothing smarter than rewarding people for breaking the rules, while those who are following the rules pay a harsh penalty. It’s brilliant. Just brilliant. Let’s tell our kids, if you’re waiting in a long line, cut the line, the people who got there first have no rights whatsoever.


i have a neighbor who was here in a student visa, started a masonry business, had a few employees. He wanted to stay after his visa ran out, he hired lawyers, did everything the right way. He didn’t luck out, had to go back to albania for two years to wait for the chance to come back legally.

He played by the rules, and suffered as a result. Liberals, I guess, would say he’s a sucker for doing so.

Except they didn’t break the rules like your neighbor.
They came to the border and legally requested asylum as the law requires.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Except they didn’t break the rules like your neighbor.
They came to the border and legally requested asylum as the law requires.
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Jim considers he’s of European descent no other immigrants from south of the border have done the same. Its just his political views complements of the GOP

And most illegals are like his example they are visa overstayers

It’s Jim’s own party cheer what happened to this man. Not Democrats
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim considers he’s of European descent no other immigrants from south of the border have done the same. Its just his political views complements of the GOP

And most illegals are like his example they are visa overstayers

It’s Jim’s own party cheer what happened to this man. Not Democrats
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i don’t consider im of european descent, it’s fact.

i’m a big believer in immigration. legal
immigration.


you work in law enforcement, and you believe people
can ignore laws that are inconvenient for them? interesting.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Except they didn’t break the rules like your neighbor.
They came to the border and legally requested asylum as the law requires.
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my neighbor broke zero rules. he left when he was supposed to
leave, came back legally.

how come you’re too scared to
comment on recent polling?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

my neighbor broke zero rules. he left when he was supposed to
leave, came back legally.

how come you’re too scared to
comment on recent polling?

You can’t work on a student visa.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You can’t work on a student visa.
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yes you can.

https://www.worldtrips.com/blog/post...a-student-visa

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yes you can.

https://www.worldtrips.com/blog/post...a-student-visa

I think you might need to actually still be a student

Starting your own business isn’t on the list. It admirable but not allowed on a student visa

Jobs outside of your school are only available to international students who have completed one full academic year and who have a qualifying economic hardship or an emergent circumstance.

According to the DHS, a qualifying economic hardship entails "new, unexpected circumstances beyond [your] control," such as:

Loss of financial aid or on-campus employment (if the student is not at fault)

Large increases in tuition or living costs

Substantial decrease in the relative value of currency the student depends upon to pay expenses

Unexpected changes in the financial conditions for a student's sources of financial support

Unexpectedly large medical bills not covered by insurance

Other substantial, unexpected expenses
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

They left Venezuela months ago and traversed Central America on bus, train, and foot. Then, famously, they flew to Martha’s Vineyard on private planes and ferried to the mainland to stay, for a time, on a military base.


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sounds like the best part of the trip......