Paul Pelosi attack

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Why would you want to include suicide in gun statistics?
Because they increase the number.
Waiting periods decrease suicide by gun numbers.
No, it doesn’t just make other methods go up to achieve the same total.
Ask anyone who lost a family member to suicide with a gun if they think it’s violent.
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suicide is important to discuss. it’s laughable to lump it in with murder.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

suicide is important to discuss. it’s laughable to lump it in with murder.

You find suicide funny, you’re sicker than I thought
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You find suicide funny, you’re sicker than I thought
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i said “suicide is important”. what i said was funny, is that liberals would lump suicides in with murders, to bolster their anti gun push.

Sorry that went over your head and that you couldn’t differentiate between two very different things.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i said “suicide is important”. what i said was funny, is that liberals would lump suicides in with murders, to bolster their anti gun push.

Sorry that went over your head and that you couldn’t differentiate between two very different things.

So suicide is acceptable
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So suicide is acceptable
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(1) Nooooo. Can you please tell us how in Gods name you read what I wrote, and concluded that I said suicide is acceptable? That's quite a leap.

(2) generally speaking, liberals are way more OK with suicide and assisted suicide, than conservatives. Are you saying liberals are wrong that issue? That suicide is bad and not to be accepted? Sounds like that's what you are saying.

(3) what I said, is that suicide and murder are 2 very different things. They are both tragic to me as a catholic, but they are obviously very different.

You are humiliating yourself. Were you the kid in middle school who ate bugs so that other kids would notice you? Sorry for that.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

(1) Nooooo. Can you please tell us how in Gods name you read what I wrote, and concluded that I said suicide is acceptable? That's quite a leap.

(2) generally speaking, liberals are way more OK with suicide and assisted suicide, than conservatives. Are you saying liberals are wrong that issue? That suicide is bad and not to be accepted? Sounds like that's what you are saying.

(3) what I said, is that suicide and murder are 2 very different things. They are both tragic to me as a catholic, but they are obviously very different.

You are humiliating yourself. Were you the kid in middle school who ate bugs so that other kids would notice you? Sorry for that.

Since you’re so concerned about life.

In the United States, suicides outnumber homicides almost two to one. Perhaps the real tragedy behind suicide deaths—about 30,000 a year, one for every 45 attempts—is that so many could be prevented. Research shows that whether attempters live or die depends in large part on the ready availability of highly lethal means, especially firearms.

How’s your goat?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Since you’re so concerned about life.

In the United States, suicides outnumber homicides almost two to one.
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Which is exactly why you need to exclude suicides when you're making a case about the danger guns cause to innocent victims. Including them, meaningfully distorts the data.

Thank you for proving my point.