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01-26-2016, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Your IT guy is likely describing a secure environment where record attributes and user credentials control information behavior. Yes, an unsecure system wouldn't have these, but documents or email content could unless it was deliberately removed which would be a crime. Note though there's been no evidence of this happening.
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You mean a properly secure environment that has all the needed safeguards and monitoring in place, an Environment contained behind proper firewalls with filters in place to make sure certain data is kept from leaving the enclave.....
Unlike Hillary's E-mail server..
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01-25-2016, 06:17 PM
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time to go
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I would also add that the Clintons
accepted donations while Hillary was in a position of power.
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01-28-2016, 10:44 AM
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So now we are fine tuning the rules against a baseline? Thought rules were rules
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01-30-2016, 08:39 AM
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she's even a terrible liar....
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01-30-2016, 08:59 AM
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The State Department said the messages were "top secret" and could not be released.
Spokesman John Kirby said the emails were not marked classified at the time they were sent.
You can't retroactively commit a crime .. no matter how much you dislike a person
Clintons emails are like a slot machine for conservatives just like Benghazi they keep throwing money into it and pulling the lever like an old lady at Foxwoods and getting a few quarters now and them to keep them hopeful waiting to hit the jackpot ??
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01-30-2016, 09:23 AM
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I think only a blind partisan could dismiss a high level government official running all of this government business through their personal email and private unsecured server...  |
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01-30-2016, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I think only a blind partisan could dismiss a high level government official running all of this government business through their personal email and private unsecured server... |
See, but, it only matters if it is "legal" or not. Being stupid or incompetent does not matter . . . can make you fit to be POTUS. |
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01-30-2016, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
I think only a blind partisan could dismiss a high level government official running all of this government business through their personal email and private unsecured server... |
and only a blind partisan would think her Server was a was a secret
From the Government she worked for.. |
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01-30-2016, 05:32 PM
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Trump for President
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01-30-2016, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
and only a blind partisan would think her Server was a was a secret
From the Government she worked for..
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I guess you're referring to Obama 
"President Obama discovered former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of personal email at the same time as news readers.
Obama, after delivering a Saturday speech in Selma, Ala., was asked when he found out about Clinton’s personal email system run from her Chappaqua home.
“The same time everybody else learned it through news reports,” he told CBS News." |
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02-01-2016, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
Clintons emails are like a slot machine for conservatives just like Benghazi they keep throwing money into it and pulling the lever like an old lady at Foxwoods and getting a few quarters now and them to keep them hopeful waiting to hit the jackpot ??
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The IG and the FBI, at this time, work for one Barack Obama. Is he a conservative now?
Some agencies have said very clearly that 2 emais were marked as flagged when they hit her server. I don't know if that's true, neoither do you. That's why we need an investigation.
How many times has she changed the semantics of her excuses? |
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02-01-2016, 01:36 PM
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Hey Mac,   |
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02-02-2016, 12:19 PM
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Just this morning ...
Bill tried to cheer up Hillary by reminding her that Nelson Mandela wasn't elected president until after he had served 27 years in prison.
(Believe it was a phone call, as he was 'busy' elsewheres  ) |
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01-30-2016, 07:50 PM
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Aren't you guys sick of this yet?
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01-30-2016, 08:07 PM
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Aren't you guys sick of this yet?
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Not till we see how the teflon doll squirms out of it. |
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01-31-2016, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Aren't you guys sick of this yet?
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Yes
I look forward to seeing a picture of her doing the perp walk.
GO TRUMP |
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01-31-2016, 07:56 AM
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The proper rallying cry is Heil Trump!
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01-31-2016, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
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The proper rallying cry is Heil Trump!
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If anyone here did what Shillary did, they would be behind bars right now.
The average joe is sick of how Washington is being run now and finally waking up.
The main thing I see with Trump is that he is beholden to no one.
That scares Washington elites as he wants to upset the apple cart.
I say go for it.
The majority of politicians forgot that they work for us. |
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01-31-2016, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
The proper rallying cry is Heil Trump!
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you seem to keep forgetting or you are unaware that Hitler was a democratic socialist and a very independent thinker  |
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01-31-2016, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
you seem to keep forgetting or you are unaware that Hitler was a democratic socialist and a very independent thinker |
True. And even going further back in time, democrats in the south were wealthy slave owners.
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01-31-2016, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
you seem to keep forgetting or you are unaware that Hitler was a democratic socialist and a very independent thinker |
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...mocratic-soci/
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01-31-2016, 10:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Well, you have to establish a baseline. If others using private email to transfer similar information then Clinton's behavior isn't quite so scandalous now is it?
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I would suggest that if other SoS violated those rules an investigation should be done. What Hillary did goes WAY beyond anything (known) before her. You know this you just chose to play HC Advocate
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
The State Department said the messages were "top secret" and could not be released.
Spokesman John Kirby said the emails were not marked classified at the time they were sent.
You can't retroactively commit a crime .. no matter how much you dislike a person
Clintons emails are like a slot machine for conservatives just like Benghazi they keep throwing money into it and pulling the lever like an old lady at Foxwoods and getting a few quarters now and them to keep them hopeful waiting to hit the jackpot ??
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It is not dislike, it is procedures, if you do did that you would be doing time and you know it.
PS - former moderate Democrat here, now unaffiliated.
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HI MAC!!!!!
(God, no please no Trump)
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Aren't you guys sick of this yet?
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Yes but doesn't make a difference, you can be sick of it but it still needs to be investigated properly.
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Originally Posted by spence
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Lots of ambiguity on where Nazi-ism shows up on political spectrum, taking bits of left wing and right wing elements that do not fit with a broad brush. Plus European L&R politics don't always line up with US L&R |
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01-31-2016, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
It is not dislike, it is procedures, if you do did that you would be doing time and you know it.
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People keep asserting this but unless there is clear intent or disregard with the mishandlng of classified information I don't think there will be any penalties even for staffers.
Funny how classified information is leaked to the media all the time and nobody turns a blind eye.
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01-31-2016, 08:42 AM
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If those are our two choices come November I will be writing in " Common Sense" as my vote for president.
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01-31-2016, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
If those are our two choices come November I will be writing in " Common Sense" as my vote for president.
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I don't like Trump, I listen to him speak and he says absolutely nothing....he does have entertainment value in that he's an equal opportunity offender...you need only to look at National Review online to see that he has no love from Conservatives and the establishment has bristled but may be cautiously warming as they begin to think he's inevitable, he makes many on the left insane because he provides and easy target for their pent up rage.....I believe he just referred to Cruz as an "Anchor Baby" which is hilarious.....he appears to be most popular from what I can see with people that aren't that politically motivated at other times and from both sides of the aisle that are just frustrated in general particularly with political correctness always being rubbed in their noses...he's popular with union members, younger blue collar folks that I know and has a more broad appeal than any current candidate....we'll see....I don't understand it...but we'll see.....he might be a better "community organizer" than Obama
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02-05-2016, 06:10 PM
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02-06-2016, 11:50 AM
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time to go
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Quote:
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Explain how the server they used is the same or is it actually different since only Hillary and her cohorts had access to HER PRIVATE server.
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02-06-2016, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood
Explain how the server they used is the same or is it actually different since only Hillary and her cohorts had access to HER PRIVATE server.
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Not sure what they used but if it was personal it was either a private server or perhaps worse a public service?
I can't wait for the indictments, surely forthcoming... |
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