Your Stable Genius isn’t Racist

[scottw]

I heard that in response to "Make America Great Again" the democrats are unveiling their theme for 2020

"'No Borders, No Walls, No USA at All'

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso;117052.

Shes the new face of the base anger...

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I thought that was AOC?

have we declared "squad" a dirty word yet?

[Sea Dangles]

I am in the camp where I believe you have the right to burn the flag and I have the right to discourage such.
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[scottw]

I believe burning the American flag is anti-American

I believe that you have the right to burn the flag

I believe that I have the right to say that you are anti-American for burning the flag

I believe that you have the right to criticize me for criticizing you for burning the American flag....

see how that works?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

I believe burning the American flag is anti-American

I believe that you have the right to burn the flag

I believe that I have the right to say that you are anti-American for burning the flag

I believe that you have the right to criticize me for criticizing you for burning the American flag....

see how that works?

I agree 100% not to speak for you. But i am going to guess we are not just taking about flag burning ..
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I agree 100% not to speak for you. But i am going to guess we are not just taking about flag burning ..
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maybe expand...I'm not clear on what you are saying

[Jim in CT]

Is there anything to the rumors about her brother? I saw on CNN last night that she filed taxes two years jointly with her current husband, while she was still legally married to her former husband. Is CNN Trump-run TV now?

If she married her brother for an immigration scam, I'd like to know. If she didn't, no one should say she did. Fair enough?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Is there anything to the rumors about her brother? I saw on CNN last night that she filed taxes two years jointly with her current husband, while she was still legally married to her former husband. Is CNN Trump-run TV now?

If she married her brother for an immigration scam, I'd like to know. If she didn't, no one should say she did. Fair enough?

Rumors about her brother? I saw that on CNN and they said those rumors had no basis at all and where an ugly slander. Did you turn the channel bf that part of the story?

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Rumors about her brother? I saw that on CNN and they said those rumors had no basis at all and where an ugly slander. Did you turn the channel bf that part of the story?

Spoiler...Paul watches CNN

Shocker...if they said then it certainly must be true.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Spoiler...Paul watches CNN

Shocker...if they said then it certainly must be true.
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Shocker SD has nothing to add. Did your secret "friend" tell you to post that?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Rumors about her brother? I saw that on CNN and they said those rumors had no basis at all and where an ugly slander. Did you turn the channel bf that part of the story?

maybe. they didn’t say anything about her brother. they said she filed taxes under status married filing jointly, and that they name she filed with us her current husband, but that at the time she filed as his wife, she was legally married to her former husband. had nothing to do with her brother.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

maybe. they didn’t say anything about her brother. they said she filed taxes under status married filing jointly, and that they name she filed with us her current husband, but that at the time she filed as his wife, she was legally married to her former husband. had nothing to do with her brother.
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But you brought up those ugly, scummy lies and now your saying that CNN didn't say anything about her brother after you implied they did? Why would you mention her brother and then talk about CNN? Which is it - they did or they didn't?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But you brought up those ugly, scummy lies and now your saying that CNN didn't say anything about her brother after you implied they did? Why would you mention her brother and then talk about CNN? Which is it - they did or they didn't?

Read my post. What I said I saw on CNN, was a report that indicates that according to taxes, she was married to one man while still legally married to another. I heard nothing on CNN about her brother, that's a rumor I'm hearing elsewhere. OK? I heard about her brother elsewhere, what I heard on CNN was a suggestion that she was married to two people at the same time.

"But you brought up those ugly, scummy lies"

Yawn. What ugly scummy lies did I bring up, exactly? I never said the rumors about her brother were anything but rumors. Everything else I attributed to her, are things that she said and did. If any are fabricated, please let me know which. If you can't disprove them, can you tell me if you're OK with a sitting congresswoman saying and doing those things?

Seems like you're avoiding answering my question, you're responding like others do, not like you do. In any event, please specify which ugly scummy lies I am starting or perpetrating?

Regarding her brother, WDMSO was the one who brought it up, NOT me. I asked if there was anything to it, and I said if it's not true, no one should be saying it is true. You have an issue with that?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Rumors about her brother? I saw that on CNN and they said those rumors had no basis at all and where an ugly slander. Did you turn the channel bf that part of the story?

Paul forget about rumors regarding her brother. are you ok with the things she has said
about jews, about 9/11, about american soldiers, about border patrol running concentration camps? is she all that much better than Trump in terms of how divisive and offensive she is?
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[Pete F.]

Ilhan Omar and the rest of the "Squad" are Freshman Representatives and as such are each, one of the 435 duly elected people in the House of whom a majority is needed to enact anything and then a majority of 100 Senators need to agree and then The President needs to agree.

The only thing I see is that Trump has gotten all his minions to somehow believe she and the rest of the "Squad" are dangerous and scary, given the vast powers they possess.

He's doing the same lying BS as the birther stuff that propelled him to where he is today.
"Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows."
“Well, there is a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it.”

Why would Trump say it if he or nobody knows?

Yet Trump has yet to tell Bernie, an avowed socialist, to go back to where he came from. What could explain why he says that about Ocasio-Cortez, Pressley, Omar, and Tlaib but not Sanders? I just can’t put my finger on it.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ilhan Omar and the rest of the "Squad" are Freshman Representatives and as such are each, one of the 435 duly elected people in the House of whom a majority is needed to enact anything and then a majority of 100 Senators need to agree and then The President needs to agree.

The only thing I see is that Trump has gotten all his minions to somehow believe she and the rest of the "Squad" are dangerous and scary, given the vast powers they possess.

He's doing the same lying BS as the birther stuff that propelled him to where he is today.
"Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows."
“Well, there is a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it.”

Why would Trump say it if he or nobody knows?

Omar said junk about Trump. Trump fires back junk at her. Is that unusual? Seems like a pattern.

Yet Trump has yet to tell Bernie, an avowed socialist, to go back to where he came from. What could explain why he says that about Ocasio-Cortez, Pressley, Omar, and Tlaib but not Sanders? I just can’t put my finger on it.

He has said other junk about Bernie. The connection of going back to where he came from may be harder to stick on Bernie. When you hit, aim for the weak spot.

Why do you have to make it more complicated than it is? Oh, that's right, forgot, you have to work hard to label Trump stuff that he isn't.

[PaulS]

You asked about her brother - bc you know there were scummy right wing lies about her being married to her.

Scummy

You did it now live with it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You asked about her brother - bc you know there were scummy right wing lies about her being married to her.

Scummy

You did it now live with it.

Here's what I said...see my post...

"Is there anything to the rumors about her brother? I saw on CNN last night that she filed taxes two years jointly with her current husband, while she was still legally married to her former husband. Is CNN Trump-run TV now?

If she married her brother for an immigration scam, I'd like to know. If she didn't, no one should say she did."

What in there, exactly, is scummy? I thought you were the one liberal here better than that...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You asked about her brother - bc you know there were scummy right wing lies about her being married to her.

Scummy

You did it now live with it.

Quick to call me scummy, when I ask what I said that was scummy, I hear crickets.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Quick to call me scummy, when I ask what I said that was scummy, I hear crickets.

he likes to call you names and then say he's thankful his parents didn't raise him to be someone who calls people names it's pretty funny

[Jim in CT]

Trump told
the kneeling football players, some of who were white, that if they disliked the country, maybe they’d be happier someplace else. i don’t like that statement, but the point is, he said it in the past when it was directed at white people. This is not in dispute, it happened, and it means he is capable of saying it to people of all races, which necessarily means it’s not racist.
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[Pete F.]

Trump said “They never have anything good to say. That’s why I say, ‘Hey if you don’t like it, let ‘em leave, let ‘em leave.’”

Remember this is the man who said these things about America.

"This country is a hellhole, and we're going down fast."

“The American dream, is dead.”

“China, you go there now, roads, bridges, schools, you never saw anything like it,” he marveled. “I love China,” he went on. The U.S.A.? “We’re dying. We’re dying. ... We’ve got nothing.”

His strikingly dark inauguration speech about empty factories “like tombstones across the landscape,” urban decay, crime, gangs drugs, failed education — “this American carnage.”

You can praise dictators, like Trump does, and refuse to criticize Russian President Vladimir Putin for allegedly killing critics because, “Well, I think our country does plenty of killing also.”

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trump said “They never have anything good to say. That’s why I say, ‘Hey if you don’t like it, let ‘em leave, let ‘em leave.’”

Remember this is the man who said these things about America.

"This country is a hellhole, and we're going down fast."

“The American dream, is dead.”

“China, you go there now, roads, bridges, schools, you never saw anything like it,” he marveled. “I love China,” he went on. The U.S.A.? “We’re dying. We’re dying. ... We’ve got nothing.”

His strikingly dark inauguration speech about empty factories “like tombstones across the landscape,” urban decay, crime, gangs drugs, failed education — “this American carnage.”

You can praise dictators, like Trump does, and refuse to criticize Russian President Vladimir Putin for allegedly killing critics because, “Well, I think our country does plenty of killing also.”

Context, my boy, context. He has said many marvelously good things
about this country and negative things about China and Russia in different contexts.

Picking and choosing in order to slant, my boy, is a form of lying.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Context, my boy, context. He has said many marvelously good things
about this country and negative things about China and Russia in different contexts.

Picking and choosing in order to slant, my boy, is a form of lying.

Perhaps then you should look at what Trump has picked and chosen to say about Ilhan Omar

The framing of his attacks on Omar often targeted her refugee status, religion and ethnicity, and reveal how much the president is willing to bend the truth to make it seem that Omar is an enemy of the United States.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...acks-factcheck

For now, on the right, we have the man with the biggest megaphone in the country leading a mob in chanting for the expulsion of a political opponent — a US citizen! — from the country. I reject most everything that Ilhan Omar stands for, but this is degrading, disgraceful behavior from an American president. This is Two-Minute Hate stuff.

https://www.theamericanconservative....ut-ilhan-omar/

[Jim in CT]

Was it bigoted or racist when democrats in congress tried to have Trump aide Sebastian Gorka deported for political reasons?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Was it bigoted or racist when democrats in congress tried to have Trump aide Sebastian Gorka deported for political reasons?

Several Congressmen wrote to DOJ and DHS asking that they investigate news reports.

How is asking the appropriate authorities having jurisdiction to investigate comparable to lying about a sitting Congresswoman?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Perhaps then you should look at what Trump has picked and chosen to say about Ilhan Omar

Have I ever said that Trump doesn't pick and choose, doesn't slant, doesn't ever lie? I've criticized you when you claim he does when he doesn't. I don't say anything when you are right. And I've said, and demonstrated, that you are guilty of what you accuse him of. A lot. You paint a hyper-distorted picture of him by lying over and over. You also do the same distortion about those who support him.

but this is degrading, disgraceful behavior from an American president. This is Two-Minute Hate stuff.

Again, just as you accuse Trump of degrading and disgraceful stuff, you do likewise. From one to several paragraphs of hate against Trump. And that you don't have as powerful a bully pulpit as he does doesn't mean that it's OK to hypocritically do what you criticize him of, constantly, over and over again.

I may be guilty of that. Point it out when I do. I could learn something and correct it.