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01-27-2020, 10:19 AM
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ummmm, hunter got a job in, of all countries, the one country that his father was the point man in. of all the countries in the world, Hunter had to get a cushy board job in that country.that does not prove ANY corruption or anything illegal.
Again, if the biden’s didn’t do
anything wrong, Trump looks stupid for asking for an investigation.
Paul, we all have different thresholds for what’s suspicious. this is beyond that threshold for me.
I’m no brain dead zombie. i think trump probably threatened to withhold the aid. i just don’t see it as anywhere near impeachable. biden bragged about withholding aid from the same country unless they did what he wanted. so threatening to withhold aid, by itself, was ok when biden did it.
If the big deal is personal benefit ( helping trump get re elected), obviously they all do things to help them get the elected, and many of those things involve the use of public resources. The obama administration used public resources to deceive the FISA court to get permission to spy on the Trump campaign.
One of you, i think it was you, said that learning the truth about what the burdens did there, benefits no one except Trump. That’s beyond absurd.Never said no such thing and not even sure I know what you mean.
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The reason Trump wanted an investigation - actually not an investigation but "the announcement of an investigation" was bc it would tar the Biden's. He would be touting the announcement and he knows that would hurt the Biden's. By the time it would be over (but since he didn't want an actual investigation - nothing would probably end) Biden would be hurt. Trump knew Biden was his biggest opponent.
This is similar to Benghazi and how McCarthy admitted that the real reason for the prolonged investigation was to hurt H. Clinton politically. How scummy is that, that McCarthy would use dead Americans to score political points.
To think Trump was concerned with any corruption anywhere is laughable.
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01-27-2020, 10:39 AM
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The reason Trump wanted an investigation - actually not an investigation but "the announcement of an investigation" was bc it would tar the Biden's. He would be touting the announcement and he knows that would hurt the Biden's. By the time it would be over (but since he didn't want an actual investigation - nothing would probably end) Biden would be hurt. Trump knew Biden was his biggest opponent.
This is similar to Benghazi and how McCarthy admitted that the real reason for the prolonged investigation was to hurt H. Clinton politically. How scummy is that, that McCarthy would use dead Americans to score political points.
To think Trump was concerned with any corruption anywhere is laughable.
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i never said i had proof of corruption. i said it’s very, very coincidental. id have no problem investigating that. you guys seem awfully desperate to making sure that doesn’t happen. i’m in the fortunate position of being able to accept the truth, regardless of what it is.
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01-27-2020, 11:11 AM
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i never said i had proof of corruption. i said it’s very, very coincidental. id have no problem investigating that. you guys seem awfully desperate to making sure that doesn’t happen. i’m in the fortunate position of being able to accept the truth, regardless of what it is.
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so "coincidence" is now reason enough for the Pres. of the US to want an investigation?
I'm not desperate. I just think it is scummy to want an investigation based on "coincidence".
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01-27-2020, 11:14 AM
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so "coincidence" is now reason enough for the Pres. of the US to want an investigation?
I'm not desperate. I just think it is scummy to want an investigation based on "coincidence".
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i didn’t say i think it’s a coincidence. i said i think it’s obviously fishy and extremely indicative of corrupt cronyism.
I said that liberals claim it was a coincidence.
a harmless coincidence is one thing. that’s probably not what this is.
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01-27-2020, 11:18 AM
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i didn’t say i think it’s a coincidence. i said i think it’s obviously fishy and extremely indicative of corrupt cronyism.
I said that liberals claim it was a coincidence.
a harmless coincidence is one thing. that’s probably not what this is.
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There is no proof anything fishy went on.
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01-27-2020, 10:50 AM
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Never said no such thing and not even sure I know what you mean.
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Trump's actions benefit him personally and only him.
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Sound familiar?
The "actions" we were discussing, was getting to the bottom of what the Bidens were doing in Ukraine. You said =that getting to the bottom of it, benefitted no one but Trump.
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01-27-2020, 11:17 AM
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Sound familiar?
The "actions" we were discussing, was getting to the bottom of what the Bidens were doing in Ukraine. You said =that getting to the bottom of it, benefitted no one but Trump.
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Miss read the original quote and that is why I said i'm not sure what you mean.
Yes, It only benefits Trump.
They weren't going anything in Ukr. other than H. Biden working for a company there. To imply there was something nefarious going on w/o any evidence is wrong.
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01-27-2020, 11:22 AM
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Miss read the original quote and that is why I said i'm not sure what you mean.
Yes, It only benefits Trump.
They weren't going anything in Ukr. other than H. Biden working for a company there. To imply there was something nefarious going on w/o any evidence is wrong.
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the truth only benefits trump. if you say so...
how could you possibly know that they didn’t do anything wrong?
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01-27-2020, 11:35 AM
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the truth only benefits trump. if you say so...
how could you possibly know that they didn’t do anything wrong?
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How do you know that they did? You just don't do an investigation on a feeling that something is wrong or a coincidence.
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01-27-2020, 11:37 AM
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How do you know that they did? You just don't do an investigation on a feeling that something is wrong or a coincidence.
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you are tedious...but I still love you
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01-27-2020, 11:45 AM
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How do you know that they did? You just don't do an investigation on a feeling that something is wrong or a coincidence.
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my god, man, i keep
saying i don’t know, which is why i’d like to find out. you find out by investigating.
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01-27-2020, 12:08 PM
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my god, man, i keep
saying i don’t know, which is why i’d like to find out. you find out by investigating.
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The point is there is no proof at all so you shouldn't as the Pres. of the US tell a foreign country that you want them to announce an investigation into something there is no proof.
My God - what don't you understand about that?
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