Someone was listening

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Again nothing but childish insults from a dotard. It's embarrassing how your posts lack substance.
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Thank you for providing fodder my little puppet.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Thank you for providing fodder my little puppet.
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Again nothing but childish insults from a dotard. It's embarrassing how your posts lack substance.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Again nothing but childish insults from a dotard. It's embarrassing how your posts lack substance.

you should read YOUR posts

[The Dad Fisherman]

https://youtu.be/lA5UqUyFmT0
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[Sea Dangles]

Like most #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s PaulS thinks HE is adding substance. He should read his last 10 posts and decide if his offerings are in depth. I guess that is heavy lifting in his snow globe.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Like most #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s PaulS thinks HE is adding substance. He should read his last 10 posts and decide if his offerings are in depth. I guess that is heavy lifting in his snow globe.
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You mean the ones responding to your childish insults? Of course they don't add value - but that is the same as the vast majority of your posts.

[detbuch]

Ann Coulter's contribution to the notion that "someone was listening."

https://townhall.com/columnists/annc...d-8cc16b57cace

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Ann Coulter's contribution to the notion that "someone was listening."

https://townhall.com/columnists/annc...d-8cc16b57cace

Trump’s Aryan Witch Enforcer selectively missed a lot of history, to attempt to make a contorted point.
Google Aztlan and Google immigrant invasion, a lot more hits on immigrant invaders than Aztlan, but keep spinning and believing Trump's rhetoric has no effect.

Then you can look at things from the viewpoint of American citizens of Mexican descent:
Mexican Cession and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the illegal land takings that have occurred since.
Mexican Repatriation occurred in the 1930s when the government illegally deported a million AMERICAN citizens of Mexican descent to Mexico.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trump’s Aryan Witch Enforcer selectively missed a lot of history, to attempt to make a contorted point.
Google Aztlan and Google immigrant invasion, a lot more hits on immigrant invaders than Aztlan, but keep spinning and believing Trump's rhetoric has no effect.

She didn't miss any history. She pointed out a slice of reality that made its point. She wasn't trying to make your Salem Witch trial investigation's selective points which also "missed" a lot of history. History is far far far more extensive than your little range. And the brief little slice of it that she presents is a spot on contribution of events and words that influence. The number of hits on google is irrelevant in terms of who is listening to the rhetoric of Mexican Supremacist factions. To dismiss the effect of that rhetoric on a large number of Mexicans who want to be here, and welcome any notion of their right to be here regardless of our immigration laws, helps to solidify the belief that they indeed have a right, a superior right that precedes anyone else's.

Then you can look at things from the viewpoint of American citizens of Mexican descent:
Mexican Cession and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the illegal land takings that have occurred since.
Mexican Repatriation occurred in the 1930s when the government illegally deported a million AMERICAN citizens of Mexican descent to Mexico.

You've already pointed that out. I regret that I gave you the opportunity to once again point it out. I got it the first time and it gets boring hearing about it over and over. It's all interesting, but this is still the U.S., not Mexico, however it got to be that way.

This is the first time that Coulter's viewpoint has been tendered. There is no need to bring all that old stuff up as if it somehow discredits what she says. I doesn't. But a not very nice try.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You've already pointed that out. I regret that I gave you the opportunity to once again point it out. I got it the first time and it gets boring hearing about it over and over. It's all interesting, but this is still the U.S., not Mexico, however it got to be that way.

This is the first time that Coulter's viewpoint has been tendered. There is no need to bring all that old stuff up as if it somehow discredits what she says. I doesn't. But a not very nice try.

Perhaps she should have read his manifesto.
Then she would have seen this statement.

"Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement."

Pretty far stretch to blame that on Armando Navarro, Roberto Rodriguez or some civil action group.

But perhaps Ann Coulter feels guilty about saying this, though I doubt it.

Ann Coulter, appearing as a guest on Jeanine Pirro’s Fox News show, offered a dispassionately violent suggestion about what could be done to stem the flow of migrants: “You can shoot invaders.”

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Perhaps she should have read his manifesto.
Then she would have seen this statement.

"Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement."

Pretty far stretch to blame that on Armando Navarro, Roberto Rodriguez or some civil action group.

But perhaps Ann Coulter feels guilty about saying this, though I doubt it.

Ann Coulter, appearing as a guest on Jeanine Pirro’s Fox News show, offered a dispassionately violent suggestion about what could be done to stem the flow of migrants: “You can shoot invaders.”

This doesn't address Coulter's article that I posted. It seems that no matter what is actually said, it simply provides you with an opportunity to change the subject and drag us back into whatever bone you have to pick. That gets old. But I do understand that it does relieve you of the burden of rebutting or disproving or even of making a pertinent response.

[Sea Dangles]

Words are like guns
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Her article proposed that the shooter was influenced by a viewpoint that is held by very few as opposed to something broadcast on Fox, called as such by Trump in rallies time after time.

This sentence is incoherent.

It begins by trying to compare different things--being influenced by a viewpoint, and by the source of a (the same?) viewpoint. Possibly being influenced by the actual rhetoric is one thing. Attributing the source of the rhetoric as influence is another thing. Coulter addressed the rhetoric and action itself--the source being those who actually said or wrote or did it.

If your saying that the shooter would be influenced, not by the rhetoric, but by the source (Fox News), that is a different argument which Coulter did not address.

If your saying that the "viewpoint" of the Mexican supremacists is held by very few because it wasn't on Fox News and therefor it would not be effective in influencing the shooter, that would be assuming something you don't know, as well as being irrelevant, and even more it would be misleading since the "viewpoint" actually has been broadcast or written in main stream media, including the NYT and other main print and television media other than Fox.


Keep denying, perhaps you actually believe that Trump’s speech has no effect and he is using those words to join people together to solve a problem.

And then you end by bringing in Trump, totally ignoring the distinct possibility that the shooter was influenced by the actual massive illegal immigration and the verbal threats of Mexican Supremacists that have been going on for a long time and are fully explicated rhetoric, not just single words, or supposed "code" or "dog whistles."

As you say, keep denying.

I don't deny that some crazy might take any word, no matter how legitimate or pertinent, and go off on a killing spree. But I'm going to point the finger on the shooter. That we cannot use legitimate language to describe events because some crazy may go batchit is ridiculous.

You seem to want to deny that rhetoric from the left can be effective enough to cause violence. The leftist media and politicians are fairly quiet about the possibility that their rhetoric, which is more direct and explicit, not just dog whistle stuff, influenced the Dayton shooter, who was a Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren fan. But boy, are they going hyper over the El Paso shooting because they somehow conclude that it's Trump's fault.