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12-05-2021, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and others.
The media that’s telling you to be insulted is also telling people that vaccination is bad.
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let’s go slow here.
do you support state laws which prohibit female teachers from having consensual relations with male students?
i bet you do. almost everyone does.
If i’m correct in assuming you support those laws, that means YOU support laws which limit the choices women can make with their own bodies, IF those choices would hurt “someone else”.
therefore, the only thing that matters in the abortion debate, is whether or not the baby represents “someone else.”
That’s it. everything else is a smokescreen.
every criminal law on the books, limits the choices we can make, so stop pretending that there aren’t any limits you’d place on the choices women can make with their own bodies.
i’ve had this debate a thousand times. there is no liberal response to this. none.
it’s not about “choice”, because you and i both agree that choices should be limited when “someone else” is hurt.
All that matters, is whether or not the baby represents “someone else.”
i’m 100% ok with people ( including women) making any choices they want, as long as they don’t hurt someone else.
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12-05-2021, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
let’s go slow here
i’m 100% ok with people ( including women) making any choices they want, as long as they don’t hurt someone else.
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It’s really simple
You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save what you believe to be a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and the lives of others
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
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12-05-2021, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
It’s really simple
You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save what you believe to be a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and the lives of others
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this is really stupid...I don't even know how to respond to the highlighted stupidity above
the odds of a healthy baby dying from abortion is near 100%
the odds of a healthy person dying from covid is near 0%
since we now know that both women and men can have babies....I don't believe that the government should force women and men to get pregnant or get vaccinated
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12-05-2021, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
this is really stupid...I don't even know how to respond to the highlighted stupidity above
the odds of a healthy baby dying from abortion is near 100%
the odds of a healthy person dying from covid is near 0%
since we now know that both women and men can have babies....I don't believe that the government should force women and men to get pregnant or get vaccinated
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the lack of logic ( and compassion) is breathtaking.
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12-05-2021, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
It’s really simple
You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save what you believe to be a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and the lives of others
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that’s exactly right.
where in the constitution would you find any language giving the federal government the authority to
mandate that someone take
medicine they don’t want?
here’s a question for you, and good
luck
answering this one.
why is it a crime for someone to assault a pregnant woman and
kill the baby? if the unborn isn’t a human being, how can killing the baby be murder?
unless you’d say that it’s a human if the mom wants it, but not a human if the mom doesn’t want it, and that’s beyond stupid. the mothers state of
mind changes nothing as far as the baby is concerned. the moms intentions don’t bestow humanity.
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12-05-2021, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
that’s exactly right.
where in the constitution would you find any language giving the federal government the authority to
mandate that someone take
medicine they don’t want?
here’s a question for you, and good
luck
answering this one.
why is it a crime for someone to assault a pregnant woman and
kill the baby? if the unborn isn’t a human being, how can killing the baby be murder?
unless you’d say that it’s a human if the mom wants it, but not a human if the mom doesn’t want it, and that’s beyond stupid. the mothers state of
mind changes nothing as far as the baby is concerned. the moms intentions don’t bestow humanity.
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The death of an unborn child was not considered murder in the Old Testament, but just like federal law until 2004 could be a cause for a tort claim.
You can explain to the vast majority of Jews that you don’t care what their religion tells them, yours is the one recognized by the Supreme Court.
And if life concerns you so much perhaps you and the rest of them prolife movement should consider doing something about healthcare for Americans since we rank near last among developed nations in infant/maternal mortality, 33rd of 36!
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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12-05-2021, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The death of an unborn child was not considered murder in the Old Testament, but just like federal law until 2004 could be a cause for a tort claim.
You can explain to the vast majority of Jews that you don’t care what their religion tells them, yours is the one recognized by the Supreme Court.
And if life concerns you so much perhaps you and the rest of them prolife movement should consider doing something about healthcare for Americans since we rank near last among developed nations in infant/maternal mortality, 33rd of 36!
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i asked why it’s murder now. most liberals few it should be a crime doesn’t make sense
you just don’t get it. the supreme
court isn’t considering a religious belief. the supreme court is considering whether or not the question of abortion is a federal issue or a state issue. not whether abortion is moral or not.
i’ve said many times we can and should improve the safety net for people who need it.
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