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Old 02-01-2023, 01:43 PM   #1
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Here’s a little article on the history of police in America

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-of-the-police
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Old 02-01-2023, 02:15 PM   #2
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Here’s a little article on the history of police in America

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-of-the-police
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wayne is saying she was t calling the police racists. You’re saying she’s right to call them ‘racists.

until very recently, the police gave all their political help to democrats, who gleefully accepted. My whole
life, until very recently, the police and democrats were hand in hand. so are you saying your party, for decades, willingly signed themselves with racists? sure sounds like that’s what you’re saying.

Socioeconomics, nor race, dictate that blacks will commit a disproportionate share of violent crime. Not because they’re black, but because they’re more likely to be poor, more likely to have grown up without a dad.

Common sense suggests most police interactions will be, and should be, where most violent crime takes place.

therefore, police will have a disproportionate share of interactions with blacks. That’s not racist. It’s inevitable because of socioeconomics.

pete, you get in trouble, you call 911, the cops come running to you. they don’t care what color you are, they don’t care that you’re a deranged liberal parrot who hates police because CNN tells him to. They don’t care that they are putting themselves in danger. They drop what they’re doing, and they run to you.

that doesn’t mean they’re perfect, doesn’t mean we don’t look for good reforms and doesn’t mean we don’t weed out the bad apples. But maybe it means you could put politics aside for a nanosecond and admit the obvious truth about them. But you can’t. Partisan politics derives your every breath.
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Old 02-01-2023, 03:42 PM   #3
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wayne is saying she was t calling the police racists. You’re saying she’s right to call them ‘racists.

until very recently, the police gave all their political help to democrats, who gleefully accepted. My whole
life, until very recently, the police and democrats were hand in hand. so are you saying your party, for decades, willingly signed themselves with racists? sure sounds like that’s what you’re saying.

Socioeconomics, nor race, dictate that blacks will commit a disproportionate share of violent crime. Not because they’re black, but because they’re more likely to be poor, more likely to have grown up without a dad.

Common sense suggests most police interactions will be, and should be, where most violent crime takes place.

therefore, police will have a disproportionate share of interactions with blacks. That’s not racist. It’s inevitable because of socioeconomics.

pete, you get in trouble, you call 911, the cops come running to you. they don’t care what color you are, they don’t care that you’re a deranged liberal parrot who hates police because CNN tells him to. They don’t care that they are putting themselves in danger. They drop what they’re doing, and they run to you.

that doesn’t mean they’re perfect, doesn’t mean we don’t look for good reforms and doesn’t mean we don’t weed out the bad apples. But maybe it means you could put politics aside for a nanosecond and admit the obvious truth about them. But you can’t. Partisan politics derives your every breath.
You need to educate yourself on the militarization of the police and stop being a blind police fan boy.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Most Americans, including a majority of President Donald Trump’s Republican Party, support sweeping law enforcement reforms such as a ban on chokeholds and racial profiling after the latest death of an African American while in police custody, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Thursday.
That was in 2020


Police are like teachers there going endorse who ever is going to give them money That’s why they backed Trump he was going to let them off their chains

After a year of protests over police brutality, some Republican-controlled states have ignored or blocked police-reform proposals, moving instead in the other direction by granting greater powers to officers, making it harder to discipline them and expanding their authority to crack down on demonstrations.

Accepting the police endorsement in July, Trump tweeted: “I will ALWAYS back the men and women in blue, and never let you down. LAW AND ORDER will prevail!”

How did that work out for him .. the GOP would love to have a police state .. while claiming it’s to keep Americans safe
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Old 02-01-2023, 05:41 PM   #4
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You need to educate yourself on the militarization of the police and stop being a blind police fan boy.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Most Americans, including a majority of President Donald Trump’s Republican Party, support sweeping law enforcement reforms such as a ban on chokeholds and racial profiling after the latest death of an African American while in police custody, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Thursday.
That was in 2020


Police are like teachers there going endorse who ever is going to give them money That’s why they backed Trump he was going to let them off their chains

After a year of protests over police brutality, some Republican-controlled states have ignored or blocked police-reform proposals, moving instead in the other direction by granting greater powers to officers, making it harder to discipline them and expanding their authority to crack down on demonstrations.

Accepting the police endorsement in July, Trump tweeted: “I will ALWAYS back the men and women in blue, and never let you down. LAW AND ORDER will prevail!”

How did that work out for him .. the GOP would love to have a police state .. while claiming it’s to keep Americans safe
you’re saying police endorse republicans now, because republicans are giving them. ire money then democrats?

Please prove that wayne. That’s absurd nonsense. Democrats are still
way more pro union. but police have had enough of being called racist assassins by democrats.

You’re an absolute, shameless
liar. prove me wrong. show me some data to support your statement that republicans want to give more money to police than democrats. Stupidest thing you’ve said in awhile.

wanting to ban chokeholds isnt the same thing as constantly telling the country that police are racist. you’re saying that’s as far as the left wants to go with police reform? please…

lord almighty…

for the 5th time now, who was congresswoman Bush calling racist?

If cops are white supremacists, then you’re an Aushwitz prison guard wayne. that’s all you are. Just hired muscle for the Klan to keep the darkies in line. if you agree with Bush, then you agree with that. Can’t have it both ways.
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Old 02-02-2023, 08:32 AM   #5
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you’re saying police endorse republicans now, because republicans are giving them. ire money then democrats?

Please prove that wayne. That’s absurd nonsense. Democrats are still
way more pro union. but police have had enough of being called racist assassins by democrats.

You’re an absolute, shameless
liar. prove me wrong. show me some data to support your statement that republicans want to give more money to police than democrats. Stupidest thing you’ve said in awhile.

wanting to ban chokeholds isnt the same thing as constantly telling the country that police are racist. you’re saying that’s as far as the left wants to go with police reform? please…

lord almighty…

for the 5th time now, who was congresswoman Bush calling racist?

If cops are white supremacists, then you’re an Aushwitz prison guard wayne. that’s all you are. Just hired muscle for the Klan to keep the darkies in line. if you agree with Bush, then you agree with that. Can’t have it both ways.
For the 5 th the Institution Jim not the people. I guessed you ignored my IRS example. And as usual your needles stuck on stupid again

Did you look up the Militarization of the police and it’s effects on the institutions and it’s members or how red states

What’s stupid is somehow you concluded some police unions shifts towards republicans isn’t about money?

show me some data to support your statement that republicans want to give more money to police than democrats.

Really playing dumb again 2 seconds ago you claiming democrats want to defund police but now they’re still giving more to police? So are you saying police unions were wrong when they backed Trump? Actually they were he did nothing for them he just did what he did to the rest of his supporters told them what they wanted to hear.

In his 2019 budget plan, the Trump administration proposes a nearly 50 percent cut to the COPS Hiring Program, which helps hire local police ...


Yet Ron’s gears up for 2024 with the same idea to convince police he’s on their side
Gov. Ron DeSantis to pay $5K to police who relocate to Florida

Ron claiming Florida is the most pro law enforcement state backing the blue and he’s different from states who what to defund police

Go read this is sounds and reads like something out of Putin’s office pure Propaganda

https://www.flgov.com/2022/04/01/gov...in-the-nation/
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Old 02-01-2023, 06:59 PM   #6
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wayne is saying she was t calling the police racists. You’re saying she’s right to call them ‘racists.

until very recently, the police gave all their political help to democrats, who gleefully accepted. My whole
life, until very recently, the police and democrats were hand in hand. so are you saying your party, for decades, willingly signed themselves with racists? sure sounds like that’s what you’re saying.

Socioeconomics, nor race, dictate that blacks will commit a disproportionate share of violent crime. Not because they’re black, but because they’re more likely to be poor, more likely to have grown up without a dad.

Common sense suggests most police interactions will be, and should be, where most violent crime takes place.

therefore, police will have a disproportionate share of interactions with blacks. That’s not racist. It’s inevitable because of socioeconomics.

pete, you get in trouble, you call 911, the cops come running to you. they don’t care what color you are, they don’t care that you’re a deranged liberal parrot who hates police because CNN tells him to. They don’t care that they are putting themselves in danger. They drop what they’re doing, and they run to you.

that doesn’t mean they’re perfect, doesn’t mean we don’t look for good reforms and doesn’t mean we don’t weed out the bad apples. But maybe it means you could put politics aside for a nanosecond and admit the obvious truth about them. But you can’t. Partisan politics derives your every breath.
You’re losing it, you don’t know me and you obviously don’t know cops.

The weeding has never been done well.

You’re a shining example of white privilege.
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Old 02-01-2023, 07:45 PM   #7
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You’re losing it, you don’t know me and you obviously don’t know cops.

The weeding has never been done well.

You’re a shining example of white privilege.
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oh we’ve all got you figured out, believe me. took all of a day. and the data on cops is very clear.

There are somewhere around 750,000 cops in the country. tens if not hundreds of millions of interactions with people every year. some are in the most stressful imaginable situations. and out of tens or hundreds of millions of interactions a year, maybe a few dozen unarmed civilians are killed, and those aren’t all unjustified. One unjustified death is too many, but the irrefutable data is crystal clear, there’s no epidemic. not even close.

I’m all in favor of improving the process of weeding out the psychos. No one objects to that. What is disgusting, is demonizing all of them to the point where it gets some of them killed. That’s what your side is doing. for political gain. congratulations.

“white privilege.”. right. pete, the most economically successful demographic in the us isn’t whites. it’s asians. If white privilege is such a big factor, how do asians do it?

answer - it’s not about skin color. it’s about the quality of the parents you were born to. the data also makes that clear. black kids born to two loving committed parents who work hard and make good decisions,,do just fine. White kids born to single teenage moms, struggle.

it ain’t about skin color. But that’s what your side leads with, because it’s all you have. The truth doesn’t help get democrats elected.

we don’t need to all be white to succeed. We need to behave more like the asians - extremely tight knit families that work amazingly hard and see education as a gift from god and they take better advantage of it.

“good parent” privilege is a thousand times more valuable than white privileged.
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