the Trump Phenomenon

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

I highly doubt Trump will ever be president.
Some left wing, gun hating nut job will put a bullet in him or someone from the Clinton camp will kill him. They've got some experience in this type of thing.

I'm lighting my prayer candle now.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm guessing you don't know that what was the Dem. party back then has morphed into the current Rep. party and what was the Rep. party back then has morphed into the Dem. party of today.

That's an interesting observation. How did you arrive at it?

In fact, I would bet that if someone compared the states that voted Rep. back then to the states that now vote Dem., there would be a very good correlation.

It seems to me that the Southern States became less racist when they became Republican.

And the Northern States seem to have morphed from what was then a conservative, more constitutional Republicanism which embraced the original American ethic of personal responsibility and fidelity to founding principles into something quite opposite--Progressivism.

[PaulS]

A liberal wouldn't shoot him. Prob. try hitting him with a sling shot.

I could see some Clinton aide doing that so they could use that as a campaign issue.
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[Raven]

i am not paying for that foking wall
vs
i did not have sex with that woman

[Nebe]

I have thought a lot about it. It's the same bull chit that people say about Sanders being a Comunist.
Rand Paul is endorsing him as being the most free market friendly of the bunch. Think about that.

There's no question in my mind that a vast majority of Trump supporters are mouth breathing poorly educated racist xenophobes. Sure, some are smart highly educated racists.
The fact is... Trump = hate, fear, ignorance, and white power.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I have thought a lot about it. It's the same bull chit that people say about Sanders being a Comunist.
Rand Paul is endorsing him as being the most free market friendly of the bunch. Think about that.

There's no question in my mind that a vast majority of Trump supporters are mouth breathing poorly educated racist xenophobes. Sure, some are smart highly educated racists.
The fact is... Trump = hate, fear, ignorance, and white power.
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Nebe,this really is some juvenile drivel you are spouting. To stereotype this way makes it seem as though you are the person with no tolerance. Funny thing is that if you actually have been paying attention to this race then you would understand that Trump is a moderate. His answers regarding planned parenthood and healthcare demonstrate a compassion which is unusual for the party he represents.

If you don't think there are racists in the Democratic Party you are not paying attention. Please defend your position by letting us see the white power and ignorance positions that you have accused Trump of endorsing.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Nebe,this really is some juvenile drivel you are spouting. To stereotype this way makes it seem as though you are the person with no tolerance. Funny thing is that if you actually have been paying attention to this race then you would understand that Trump is a moderate. His answers regarding planned parenthood and healthcare demonstrate a compassion which is unusual for the party he represents.

If you don't think there are racists in the Democratic Party you are not paying attention. Please defend your position by letting us see the white power and ignorance positions that you have accused Trump of endorsing.
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Paul just stated perfectly what I was going to say. The KKK and neo nazi groups endorse trump!

And to address Paul's comment about white power, your thoughts back up why I mentioned it. "Make America great agian" to me means to kick out the illegals, and make this place the way it used to be. Wink wink nudge nudge.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Paul just stated perfectly what I was going to say. The KKK and neo nazi groups endorse trump!

And to address Paul's comment about white power, your thoughts back up why I mentioned it. "Make America great agian" to me means to kick out the illegals, and make this place the way it used to be. Wink wink nudge nudge.
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You have a lot of misdirected hate my friend . I suggest a different weed .
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Paul just stated perfectly what I was going to say. The KKK and neo nazi groups endorse trump!


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I know right...just the other day I bumped into a KKK guy at Dairy Mart...he seemed a bit overdressed and then the neo nazis were having a group event down at the Hibernians....those guys are really something....you see them all over town huh?


seriously Eben...when was the last time you ran into a KKK or neo-nazi group member??

i was however at the home of a proud communist, who wants everyone and everything taxed but him and his, in Franklin Mass the other night

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Nebe

There's no question in my mind that a vast majority of Trump supporters are mouth breathing poorly educated racist xenophobes. Sure, some are smart highly educated racists.
The fact is... Trump = hate, fear, ignorance, and white power.
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I disagree with that first statement. I agree with that 2nd statement up to the white power. I think there is something there where people feel they are losing power or control and are trying to figure out why. They are thinking how great things use to be and want to go back to those days.

Edit - just saw Seadangles response and agree Trump is really a moderate. I think if he stopped his outlandish statements and hateful rhetoric he might be getting more votes.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I disagree with that first statement. I agree with that 2nd statement up to the white power. I think there is something there where people feel they are losing power or control and are trying to figure out why. They are thinking how great things use to be and want to go back to those days.

Edit - just saw Seadangles response and agree Trump is really a moderate. I think if he stopped his outlandish statements and hateful rhetoric he might be getting more votes.
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Paul, he is getting plenty of votes. And tell me about his hateful rhetoric.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I have thought a lot about it. It's the same bull chit that people say about Sanders being a Comunist.
Rand Paul is endorsing him as being the most free market friendly of the bunch. Think about that.

There's no question in my mind that a vast majority of Trump supporters are mouth breathing poorly educated racist xenophobes. Sure, some are smart highly educated racists.
The fact is... Trump = hate, fear, ignorance, and white power.
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"Trump = hate, fear, ignorance, and white power"

I don't think he's ignorant on business and economics. Othe rthan that, you are correct.

Using that logic, Obama = hate, fear, ignorance, and black power.

[Nebe]

I don't think you are a full blown racist but I would guess you wouldn't be happy if your daughter dated a black man.

As for the black vote, why wouldn't the majority of the black population vote democratic? They want progress.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I don't think you are a full blown racist but I would guess you wouldn't be happy if your daughter dated a black man.

As for the black vote, why wouldn't the majority of the black population vote democratic? They want progress.
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How has that progress worked out for black Americans so far ?
I would be OK with my daughter datlng a black man . As long as he was honest, loyal, worked hard and treated her the way she deserves .
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[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I don't think you are a full blown racist but I would guess you wouldn't be happy if your daughter dated a black man.

As for the black vote, why wouldn't the majority of the black population vote democratic? They want progress.
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WRONG!!!!....majority want freebies....my hat is off to those that want to B educated....and I'm willing to bet there R way more black uneducated & poor people voting democratic

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

As for the black vote, why wouldn't the majority of the black population vote democratic? They want progress.
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Yeah. During the height of segregation, 30% of black babies were born out of wedlock. Today, under a black president, that figure is 72%. That's some progress, Nebe.

Nebe, look at the big urban areas in our country, heavy black populations, most controlled by Democrats. How many of those places are better off today than they were 25 years ago. Here in CT, I think of Bridgeport, New Haven, and Hartford. 35 years ago, those were nice places to vosit with a family (at least Hartford and New Haven were). Today, those places look more like Mogidishu than they look like the cities they were a generation ago.

That's progress?

What you call "progress", is actually a need for blacks to feed their addiction to entitlement, because liberal policies have rendered many of them unable to compete. It's like finding a wounded animal. The goal should be to nurse it back to health, and then let it fend for itself. Sometimes, the animal becomes too dependent on its enablers, and is then unable to fend for itself, so it must be kept in a sanctuary.

Republicans want to help boor people acquire the skills they need to succeed (and continue to help the few who truly can't provide for themselves). Liberals want to make hugfe numbers of poor people addicted to welfare, forever dependent on the feds to avoid starvation, in return for votes. That's not respect, and it sure as hell isn't progress.

And if you don't believe me, come to CT and take a stroll in Bridgeport or Hartford, and see for yourself all the progress that poor blacks have made at the hands of the bluest of liberals.

[Nebe]

That's a great answer.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

That's a great answer.
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It's the way most conservatives feel . The ones I associate with, look at the soul not the race or religion .
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[Sea Dangles]

What is the reason these groups have endorsed Trump? Especially given that Cruz's stance on immigration is much more harsh. Do you think the open door policy for illegals is helping this country enough that you would choose to continue alowing illegals to enter without consequence? I understand you are a Bernie guy and can understand his appeal, but if I had a crystal ball I would guess he is a footnote come election time. Personally, I like Kasich but he will be the same footnote. That brings us to the unenviable lesser evil that will confront the public on Election Day. She will not be getting my vote,her ass is bought and paid for by the big business/ Wall Street folks and she has zero credibility. Using your logic I should be shopping for SS uniforms and looking for a cross to burn, it's insulting really and narrow minded on your part.
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[Nebe]

I'm only pointing out that hate the trump is spreading and pointing out how everyone else is gobbling it up
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[Nebe]

The besthate that I have inside me is the fact that this country has fallen so low to let such a hatemongering a-hole hi Jack an election process
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The besthate that I have inside me is the fact that this country has fallen so low to let such a hatemongering a-hole hi Jack an election process
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Then you are hating the wrong man . Trump hasn't done anything to cause this country to fall . I agree 100% that it's in the crapper though
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[Sea Dangles]

Hatemongering,
Whatever that is supposed to mean?
I suppose that explains the "make America Great Again" catch line.Let's talk about Which Hillary.
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[scottw]

from the exit polls Democrat primary in SC last night

ABC News is also reporting that voters said the economy and jobs are the most important issue facing the country (43 percent) with health care (23 percent) and income inequality (20 percent) trailing behind.


I thought the economy and jobs was all fixed...haven't you see that unemployment rate??

I thought Obamacare was taking care of everyone now...by the way...has anyone actually talked to someone on Obamacare?? because it's not pretty

I thought greedy corporations and income inequality was the biggest problem facing us...didn't these democrats get the memo??

[Nebe]

I agree
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I think if you get a breakdown of all the freebies this government gives out you would find that most of it goes to the military-industrial complex and of course banks that are too big to fail, etc. but the freebies but you were talking about also align with what I was talking about and that is progress or at some call it progressive thinking. We just spent over $1 trillion on an airplane that barely works that money could've gone to educating people or healthcare for everybody. I would much rather see my tax dollars going to help someone in need and then some ridiculous government military boondoggle.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I agree
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I think if you get a breakdown of all the freebies this government gives out you would find that most of it goes to the military-industrial complex and of course banks that are too big to fail, etc. but the freebies but you were talking about also align with what I was talking about and that is progress or at some call it progressive thinking. We just spent over $1 trillion on an airplane that barely works that money could've gone to educating people or healthcare for everybody. I would much rather see my tax dollars going to help someone in need and then some ridiculous government military boondoggle.

Your way, way off on how the Federal Government spends ( I assume you meant Federal not State spending).

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...g-internet-mi/

And if you add State spending to ''government" spending, you're even more wrong. State's spend 9 times more on education than the Federal government does. So just on education alone, we spend about as much on education as we do on military. And when we add the rest of State spending, the amount spent on non-military grows even more than the amount on the Federal pie chart.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your way, way off on how the Federal Government spends ( I assume you meant Federal not State spending).

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...g-internet-mi/

And if you add State spending to ''government" spending, you're even more wrong. State's spend 9 times on education than the Federal government does. So just on education alone, we spend about as much on education as we do on military. And when we add the rest of State spending, the amount spent on non-military grows even more than the amount on the Federal pie chart.

You forgot his mention of big banks. I think the working assumption that the Government will bail out the big guys if the fan hits has to lower their borrowing costs. How many billions in taxpayer subsidies is this equivalent to?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

You forgot his mention of big banks. I think the working assumption that the Government will bail out the big guys if the fan hits has to lower their borrowing costs. How many billions in taxpayer subsidies is this equivalent to?

I thought It was the evil "conservatives" and libertarians who opposed bailing out the big banks. Wasn't it a progressive idea to bail them out? Aren't big banks in cahoots with big government a progressive idea? And wasn't that supposed to be good for the economy, therefor good for the people that Nebe wants the money to go to?

Anyway, if the military is not good for the protection of the people that Nebe wants to get the money, what's it good for?

And, again, for progressives and so-called "liberals," government means the Federal Government. The States spend almost all their money for the "good" of the people. But that never seems to add to the equation that progressives consider when they complain how the "government" distributes money. Of course, for progressives, States are an unnecessary nuisance. It would be so much simpler and more efficient if they were eliminated as governmental agencies and all was left to one central government.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Of course, for progressives, States are an unnecessary nuisance. It would be so much simpler and more efficient if they were eliminated as governmental agencies and all was left to one central government.

Yes,they would love to see the end of home rule where individual citizens can
speak their minds and participate in the government.
They love the sheeple mentality rather then think for themselves.

[Nebe]

The last I heard we were electing a federal president.
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