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Old 10-21-2022, 10:00 AM   #1
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With that logic the rental place could choose to not rent them chairs tables or a tent . A hotel could refuse to provide a room .

Or I could refuse a charter to any religion . By just claiming my religious believes don’t allow it


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Same logic as telling Muslim truck drivers that they cannot be forced to transport alchohol.

"Or I could refuse a charter to any religion "

Only if the gay couple wanted you to marry them on the boat.

As with many issues, you're missing the point. The christian baker isn't saying a gay person can't walk in and buy some cannolis and take them out with him. He's not refusing all service because the person is gay. He's saying (because he has the right to say it), that he doesn't want to play a role in the wedding, because it violates his religion.

WDMSO, where was the liberal outrage just a few years ago, when Obama and Hilary were adamantly opposed to gay marriage? The baker isn't saying they can't get married, he's just saying "leave me out of it". Obama and Hilary were saying very recently that they shouldn't be allowed to get married, and Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize when that was his opinion.
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Old 10-21-2022, 10:39 AM   #2
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Same logic as telling Muslim truck drivers that they cannot be forced to transport alchohol.

"Or I could refuse a charter to any religion "

Only if the gay couple wanted you to marry them on the boat.

As with many issues, you're missing the point. The christian baker isn't saying a gay person can't walk in and buy some cannolis and take them out with him. He's not refusing all service because the person is gay. He's saying (because he has the right to say it), that he doesn't want to play a role in the wedding, because it violates his religion.

WDMSO, where was the liberal outrage just a few years ago, when Obama and Hilary were adamantly opposed to gay marriage? The baker isn't saying they can't get married, he's just saying "leave me out of it". Obama and Hilary were saying very recently that they shouldn't be allowed to get married, and Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize when that was his opinion.
Same logic as telling Muslim truck drivers that they cannot be forced to transport alchohol.

Classic Jim just keep beating your dead horse

Try reading the laws. I posted it might actually help your understanding of why those Truck drivers won their case

and why they don’t remotely have anything to do with your baker

Whom you always defend
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Old 10-21-2022, 10:55 AM   #3
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Same logic as telling Muslim truck drivers that they cannot be forced to transport alchohol.

Classic Jim just keep beating your dead horse

Try reading the laws. I posted it might actually help your understanding of why those Truck drivers won their case

and why they don’t remotely have anything to do with your baker

Whom you always defend
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i’m defending the constitution. read the amendment,?tell me how you can comply with that and force a christian baker to participate in a gay wedding. it says no law shall prevent the free exercise of religion. go ahead and explain how forcing christians to participate in gay weddings, doesn’t violate that right?

you also posted immigration laws about asylum
seekers, but left out that asylum seekers must cross at ports or entry or they are committing a crime. isn’t it convenient you just happened to leave that out.
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Old 10-22-2022, 03:34 PM   #4
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i’m defending the constitution. read the amendment,?tell me how you can comply with that and force a christian baker to participate in a gay wedding. it says no law shall prevent the free exercise of religion. go ahead and explain how forcing christians to participate in gay weddings, doesn’t violate that right?

you also posted immigration laws about asylum
seekers, but left out that asylum seekers must cross at ports or entry or they are committing a crime. isn’t it convenient you just happened to leave that out.
Wrong again

Seeking asylum is legal—even during a pandemic. Asylum seekers must be in the U.S. or at a port of entry (an airport or an official land crossing) to request the opportunity to apply for asylum.

"There’s no way to ask for a visa or any type of authorization in advance for the purpose of seeking asylum,” says IRC director of asylum and immigration legal services Olga Byrne. “You just have to show up."
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Old 10-22-2022, 04:32 PM   #5
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Wrong again

Seeking asylum is legal—even during a pandemic. Asylum seekers must be in the U.S. or at a port of entry (an airport or an official land crossing) to request the opportunity to apply for asylum.

"There’s no way to ask for a visa or any type of authorization in advance for the purpose of seeking asylum,” says IRC director of asylum and immigration legal services Olga Byrne. “You just have to show up."
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i listed the actual law. read it.
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