Enemies of the State

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Trump thinks every negotiation has to have a winner and a loser, like he got a deal on a real estate transaction. I don't think he has a clue how the global economy really works.

Yep.

[detbuch]

Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Trump thinks every negotiation has to have a winner and a loser, like he got a deal on a real estate transaction. I don't think he has a clue how the global economy really works.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yep.

From what I've heard Trump thinks that a good deal is win-win, not winner/loser. Heard he just made a deal with the EU:

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

From what I've heard Trump thinks that a good deal is win-win, not winner/loser. Heard he just made a deal with the EU

That's not much of a deal, just an agreement to stop escalation of a trade war with a critical partner. Typical Trump, nothing specific, could change tomorrow.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

That's not much of a deal, just an agreement to stop escalation of a trade war with a critical partner. Typical Trump, nothing specific, could change tomorrow.

i have zero knowledge of this deal you are bashing. but when you hear something like “ the tax cuts are helping people”, or that gdp growth will look healthy, or about low black unemployment, or what detbuch referred to...do you just reflexively conclude it’s bad because its Trump? or do you do any kind of honest thinking before you decide that whatever he did, can’t possibly be productive? do you have any appreciation for how redundant and predictable you are on these things? if he ran into a burning building to save a puppy, how exactly would you criticize that?

how about you criticize him when he deserves it, and give him credit when he deserves it? what are you afraid would happen, if you gave him credit for somehing? reading your posts, or pete, or wdmso, you’d think he was a cartoon villain.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i have zero knowledge of this deal you are bashing. but when you hear something like “ the tax cuts are helping people”, or that gdp growth will look healthy, or about low black unemployment, or what detbuch referred to...do you just reflexively conclude it’s bad because its Trump? or do you do any kind of honest thinking before you decide that whatever he did, can’t possibly be productive? do you have any appreciation for how redundant and predictable you are on these things? if he ran into a burning building to save a puppy, how exactly would you criticize that?
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I evaluate all his actions in the broader context.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I evaluate all his actions in the broader context.

no you don’t. you evalyatenit all in the most narrow possible context. no matter what it is, your first thought is how to make it look bad. it’s really something. i promise you that i despised obama almost as much as you despise trump. but the fact is, obama helped the economy in some ways, and he did some good things with the war on terror. i can admit that, and i don’t burst into flames.

put down the ko aid and think for two seconds. just two seconds. i know how smart you are, i know how informed you are, and i can make a good guess that you’re a damn good guy, you should expect way more if yourself. you could contribute a lot to these posts.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i promise you that i despised obama almost as much as you despise trump.

And there, right there, is the problem.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i have zero knowledge of this deal you are bashing. but when you hear something like “ the tax cuts are helping people”, or that gdp growth will look healthy, or about low black unemployment, or what detbuch referred to...do you just reflexively conclude it’s bad because its Trump? or do you do any kind of honest thinking before you decide that whatever he did, can’t possibly be productive? do you have any appreciation for how redundant and predictable you are on these things? if he ran into a burning building to save a puppy, how exactly would you criticize that?

how about you criticize him when he deserves it, and give him credit when he deserves it? what are you afraid would happen, if you gave him credit for somehing? reading your posts, or pete, or wdmso, you’d think he was a cartoon villain.
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Here is the trade deal Spence was bashing:

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

That's not much of a deal, just an agreement to stop escalation of a trade war with a critical partner. Typical Trump, nothing specific, could change tomorrow.

Either you didn't watch the video, or you're an idiot.