Darwin is coming for the GOP

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you are referring to foreign born they are within a half percent of the US.

i mean everything. and absolute
numbers matter, not just percentages. but percentages do matter.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i mean everything. and absolute
numbers matter, not just percentages. but percentages do matter.
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What about ratios?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i mean everything. and absolute
numbers matter, not just percentages. but percentages do matter.
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I realize that you believe Americans are exceptional, but we are human beings and our DNA is very similar to other humans.
For what unique reason would we be untreatable?
What other countries might have this unique issue that you claim we have with health care?
Would not Canada have similar issues, if not what is missing from their demographics?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I realize that you believe Americans are exceptional, but we are human beings and our DNA is very similar to other humans.
For what unique reason would we be untreatable?
What other countries might have this unique issue that you claim we have with health care?
Would not Canada have similar issues, if not what is missing from their demographics?

what’s the longest
you can go, without responding to something i never said? i never said we are biologically different. i said the math isn’t the same, because there are a lot
more of us, and we have millions and millions who need it provided. we also have out of control
plaintiffs attorneys driving up
costs, i don’t know if they have that in england. medical
schools here are insanely expensive, docs need to make that back.

here’s a tip. read what i write. respond to what i actually say. no point in responding to gibberish that no one said.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

we also have out of control
plaintiffs attorneys driving up
costs, i don’t know if they have that in england. medical
schools here are insanely expensive, docs need to make that back.

So what you’re saying is that a single payer system that simplifies tort reform and free college education for those qualified would solve both issues?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

So what you’re saying is that a single payer system that simplifies tort reform and free college education for those qualified would solve both issues?
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I'm saying those things would help, sure (not 'free' college education, but less expensive). Would they be enough? Beats me.

I agree that we should have a better safety net for those in need. I have no idea how to pay for it.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I agree that we should have a better safety net for those in need. I have no idea how to pay for it.

I'd love to see a list of governmental and non-governmental agencies and services addressing the problems of "those in need"...might out number those actually in need

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'd love to see a list of governmental and non-governmental agencies and services addressing the problems of "those in need"...might out number those actually in need

Well, I said I didn't know how to address it. I do know, that letting the feds do it, is not the way to go.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

what’s the longest
you can go, without responding to something i never said? i never said we are biologically different. i said the math isn’t the same, because there are a lot
more of us, and we have millions and millions who need it provided. we also have out of control
plaintiffs attorneys driving up
costs, i don’t know if they have that in england. medical
schools here are insanely expensive, docs need to make that back.

here’s a tip. read what i write. respond to what i actually say. no point in responding to gibberish that no one said.
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I read what you wrote and it was gibberish
So I asked you a question so that perhaps you could explain why what works in Great Britain is impossible here and as usual, since you can’t answer the question rationally you claim you didn’t say that.
Then you spout some idiocy that a larger pool somehow increases costs per capita (better explain this to the rest of the insurance industry) and health care costs are all the fault of educators and trial lawyers.
Really?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I asked you a question so that perhaps you could explain why what works in Great Britain is impossible here

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/w...h-service.html

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/w...h-service.html

There's that, too. How well it "works" in Britain, can be debated.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I read what you wrote and it was gibberish
So I asked you a question so that perhaps you could explain why what works in Great Britain is impossible here and as usual, since you can’t answer the question rationally you claim you didn’t say that.
Then you spout some idiocy that a larger pool somehow increases costs per capita (better explain this to the rest of the insurance industry) and health care costs are all the fault of educators and trial lawyers.
Really?
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"So I asked you a question so that perhaps you could explain why what works in Great Britain is impossible here "

I didn't say impossible. What I am saying, is that what works in another country, won't necessarily work the same here. There are a lot of variables, we are very different from most places, in terms of numbers, demographics, socioeconomics.

Does Great Britain have somewhere around 12 million illegal Mexicans living there, who are draining the system? Do they have massive urban areas of poverty, places like Bridgeport, Chicago, the projects of LA and NYC? I don't know. But you need to ask those questions, before you say "it works in Britain, therefore it will work here."