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Old 09-16-2021, 08:43 AM   #1
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Facts and data are no concern of conservatives

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do you judge a state on how it did last month? or how it’s done since the beginning?

Are you guys serious?
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Old 09-16-2021, 09:24 AM   #2
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do you judge a state on how it did last month? or how it’s done since the beginning?

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Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth

Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!

And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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Old 09-16-2021, 09:27 AM   #3
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Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth

Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!

And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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it's amusing that you've convinced yourself of this....
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:34 AM   #4
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it's amusing that you've convinced yourself of this....
About as amusing that you think trump won?
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:58 AM   #5
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About as amusing that you think trump won?
I didn't even vote for him...ever...pretty sure I was the first to pay my money to the charity in the wager we had going on here immediately following the election
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Old 09-16-2021, 09:34 AM   #6
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Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth

Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!

And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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nonsense. i literally analyze data for a living and it’s a huge influence for how i form conclusions.

I can say the same thing about liberals. liberals blame the gop for the fact that not everyone is vaccinated, yet two groups with low vaccination rates are blacks and people with PhDs. Those are not groups who take orders from the GOP in large numbers, are they?

In politics, plenty of people
on both sides ignore facts that are politically inconvenient for them.

The side that denies we have a porous southern border, which thinks that ones sex is whatever they say that it is, that unborn babies with heartbeats and neurological activity are nothing more than an inanimate mile to be removed, which thinks that fewer police is the key to improving cities, which denies that nuclear families are critically important…doesn’t have a monopoly on relying in facts.

Neither does the side that says Trump won, which denies anything is happening with our climate, which insists that masks and the vaccine don’t ever provide any benefit.

When you ignore every instance in which liberalism ignores facts, it’s pretty easy to conclude that they never do so. That doesn’t make it a true statement. It serves your personal agenda, but it’s a stupid thing to say.


The liberals here, are desperately trying to say Florida should be judged only on the covid deaths last week. Please tell me how that is an accurate depiction of facts or truth?

You won’t respond, because you can’t without criticizing the left.
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nonsense. i literally analyze data for a living and it’s a huge influence for how i form conclusions.




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Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...

example

GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off

Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less
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Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...

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GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off

Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less
good point, not every response is all about me.

but all you do is ignore all the bad things the left does, and ignore all the good things the right does. it’s all any of you do.

why is it absurd to ask who is instructing Biden who he can speak to, and when he must stop talking? I’d like to know that.
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good point, not every response is all about me.

but all you do is ignore all the bad things the left does, and ignore all the good things the right does. it’s all any of you do.

why is it absurd to ask who is instructing Biden who he can speak to, and when he must stop talking? I’d like to know that.
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So you believe the conspiracy of the mute button. Lol
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:30 PM   #10
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So you believe the conspiracy of the mute button. Lol
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i believe what i saw, when biden says “i was instructed to call on”
a friendly reporter, and when he said “they told me not to take any more questions.”

you deny he said those things regarding afghanistan recently? i’m curious to know who, exactly, gives these orders to the president. and why does he need o be given that kind of direction? john r mentioned it, nobody questioned him.

LOL.


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Old 09-16-2021, 12:54 PM   #11
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Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...

example

GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off

Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less
last night ,CNN host don lemon said we should
shun the unvaccinated, leave them
behind, and that the unvaccinated are stupid people who followed trump.

except huge. umbers if blacks and people with PhDs. aren’t vaccinated.

there’s a lefty defying facts for political convenience, which you said only republicans do.
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Old 09-16-2021, 01:03 PM   #12
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last night ,CNN host don lemon said we should
shun the unvaccinated, leave them
behind, and that the unvaccinated are stupid people who followed trump.

except huge. umbers if blacks and people with PhDs. aren’t vaccinated.

there’s a lefty defying facts for political convenience, which you said only republicans do.
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I'm flat out and don't have a lot of time to argue on here right now, so basically hit and run... but the PhD thing stuck out with me, as I have one, and am vaccinated...

This was an interesting take on the article, that the number (24% PhD not vaccinated) may not all its cracked up to be.... Not saying it is wrong, but how the number was gleaned was not super reliable it seems...

https://www.wnct.com/news/north-caro...-among-ph-d-s/

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I'm flat out and don't have a lot of time to argue on here right now, so basically hit and run... but the PhD thing stuck out with me, as I have one, and am vaccinated...

This was an interesting take on the article, that the number (24% PhD not vaccinated) may not all its cracked up to be.... Not saying it is wrong, but how the number was gleaned was not super reliable it seems...

https://www.wnct.com/news/north-caro...-among-ph-d-s/
come on, no one is saying they’re all unvaccinated,,or that those who are, say anything about you.

how about the black number, also a right wing myth?
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I'm flat out and don't have a lot of time to argue on here right now, so basically hit and run... but the PhD thing stuck out with me, as I have one, and am vaccinated...

This was an interesting take on the article, that the number (24% PhD not vaccinated) may not all its cracked up to be.... Not saying it is wrong, but how the number was gleaned was not super reliable it seems...

https://www.wnct.com/news/north-caro...-among-ph-d-s/
do you think people who have had covid, and therefore have natural antibodies, should be forced to get the vaccine? that’s a tough one for me. would genuinely like to know what you think.
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:19 PM   #15
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last night ,CNN host don lemon said we should
shun the unvaccinated, leave them
behind, and that the unvaccinated are stupid people who followed trump.

except huge. umbers if blacks and people with PhDs. aren’t vaccinated.

there’s a lefty defying facts for political convenience, which you said only republicans do.
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Once again you bring up blacks who Republicans out number 2 to 1 in this country.. and comparing the 2 vaccine non vaccinated rates as some how the same ?
Just so happens I saw that segment and his suggestion was leave all the unvaccinated behind. And that included blacks who hesitation is historical And Trump supporters it’s just political.. huge differences
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:21 PM   #16
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A new national survey by Pew Research Center, conducted from Aug. 23 to 29 among 10,348 U.S. adults, prior to President Joe Biden’s announcement of COVID-19 vaccine mandates for employers, finds that 73% of those ages 18 and older say they’ve received at least one dose of a vaccine for COVID-19, with the vast majority of this group saying they have received all the shots they need to be fully vaccinated. About a quarter of adults (26%) say they have not received a vaccine.

Vaccination rates vary significantly across demographic groups, with smaller majorities of younger adults, those with lower family incomes and those living in rural areas saying they’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine. No more than six-in-ten of those without health insurance and White evangelical Protestants say they’ve been vaccinated (57% each). Notably, Black adults are now about as likely as White adults to say they’ve received a vaccine. Earlier in the outbreak, Black adults were less likely than White adults to say they planned to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

Partisan affiliation remains one of the widest differences in vaccination status: 86% of Democrats and independents who lean toward the Democratic Party have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, compared with 60% of Republicans and Republican leaners.

Americans express a range of sometimes cross-pressured sentiments toward vaccines. Overall, 73% say the statement “vaccines are the best way to protect Americans from COVID-19” describes their views very or somewhat well; 60% say their views are described at least somewhat well by the statement “people who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine are hurting the country.”

At the same time, 51% of the public says that the phrase “there’s too much pressure on Americans to get a COVID-19 vaccine” describes their own views very or somewhat well. And 61% say the same about the statement “we don’t really know yet if there are serious health risks from COVID-19 vaccines.”

Vaccinated adults and those who have not received a vaccine differ widely in their views of vaccines – as well as other elements of the broader coronavirus outbreak. For instance, 77% of vaccinated adults say the statement “people who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine are hurting the country” describes them at least somewhat well. By contrast, 88% of those who have not received a vaccine say that “there’s too much pressure on Americans to get a COVID-19 vaccine” describes their own views very or somewhat well.

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