Maxine Waters: “The hell with the Supreme Court. We will defy them”.

[Pete F.]

If you read the decision you’ll find that what SCOTUS ruled was that the judge couldn’t act as an administrator, do you think judges should?
Texas Solicitor General Judd Stone conceded during an exchange with Justice Clarence Thomas on Tuesday morning while the Supreme Court was hearing the case, under Kacsmaryk’s reading of federal law, no administration has ever complied with that law since it was enacted in 1996.
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[wdmso]

Days after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states can prohibit abortion, Alabama has seized on the decision to argue that the state should also be able to ban gender-affirming medical treatments for transgender youths.

Yep the ruling was only about abortion
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[PaulS]

Paxton said he may move against gay rights next. That is one of the reasons why all the bigots have been moving to Tx.

[PaulS]

Wiman and their magic vaginas

In the aftermath of the US supreme court decision that ended the right to abortion, amid nationwide protests over the removal of women’s control over their own bodies, one Utah Republican said women could “control [their] intake of semen”.

The comment by Karianne Lisonbee, a state representative, came in response to an assertion that men should be held accountable for unwanted pregnancies, not just pregnant women, the Salt Lake Tribune reported.

“I got a text message today saying I should seek to control men’s ejaculations and not women’s pregnancies,” Lisonbee said.

She added: “I do trust women enough to control when they allow a man to ejaculate inside of them and to control that intake of semen.”

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Wiman and their magic vaginas

In the aftermath of the US supreme court decision that ended the right to abortion, amid nationwide protests over the removal of women’s control over their own bodies, one Utah Republican said women could “control [their] intake of semen”.

The comment by Karianne Lisonbee, a state representative, came in response to an assertion that men should be held accountable for unwanted pregnancies, not just pregnant women, the Salt Lake Tribune reported.

“I got a text message today saying I should seek to control men’s ejaculations and not women’s pregnancies,” Lisonbee said.

She added: “I do trust women enough to control when they allow a man to ejaculate inside of them and to control that intake of semen.”

(1) it did not end the right to abortion. It sent the question to the states, where per the constitution it belongs.

(2) women have long had limits on what they can do with their bodies, in particular they cannot use their body in a way that harms someone else. There’s no controversy over laws that prevent female teachers from sleeping with male students. So there are already laws in the books that limit the choices women can make with their own bodies, when those choices would harm someone else. And no one protests those laws.

Am I responsible for what a Utah state senator says Paul? If so, are t you responsible for US Rep Hank Johnson saying Guam
might tip over if we build on it? Or for Hilary saying that her husbands victims were looney tunes narcissists? Or for biden saying republicans want to put blacks in chains?

Either we’re responsible for the lunatics in our side, or we’re not. But it applies equally to both of us.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Am I responsible for what a Utah state senator says Paul? Did I ever claim you were? If so, are t you responsible for US Rep Hank Johnson saying Guam
might tip over if we build on it? Or for Hilary saying that her husbands victims were looney tunes narcissists? Or for biden saying republicans want to put blacks in chains?

Either we’re responsible for the lunatics in our side, or we’re not. But it applies equally to both of us.
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Let's not forget who started the thread

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Let's not forget who started the thread

why bring up a vile ( and it is vile) quote from a state senator from the other side of the country? what were you trying to accomplish?

plenty of nuts in both sides.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

why bring up a vile ( and it is vile) quote from a state senator from the other side of the country? what were you trying to accomplish?

plenty of nuts in both sides.
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I'm pointing out the stupid statements. What are you trying to accomplish when you start threads like this?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Let's not forget who started the thread

that’s fair.

Maxine Waters isnt a state senator from utah who no one has ever heard of. And she’s telling people
to defy federal rulings because she didn’t get what she wanted.

but that as a very fair comeback, your point was. sincerely.
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[Pete F.]

Republican Senators on Twitter today admitting that their strategy was to pack the courts with political conservatives in order to enact an agenda that was too unpopular to pass through an elected, popularly accountable Congress.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Republican Senators on Twitter today admitting that their strategy was to pack the courts with political conservatives in order to enact an agenda that was too unpopular to pass through an elected, popularly accountable Congress.
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letting state legislatures decide state issues, is the exact opposite of what you claim it is.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

letting state legislatures decide state issues, is the exact opposite of what you claim it is.
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It’s too late for Republicans to point fingers and fret about the politicization of the Supreme Court. This was their project – their justices, their shady advocacy groups, and $580M of their dark money.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

letting state legislatures decide state issues, is the exact opposite of what you claim it is.
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If Republicans actually believed in we the people they would stop supporting trump after he stole the election !

But the We the people in their world are a small subset of white evangelicals who vote in primaries and throw cash at Republicans to make American white again….

If the red states actually cared about issue of their state they would Vote on abortion state wide , but the cowards will never put that on the ballot …. The see the polls they know the answer

It’s the only freedoms they support and they want that they care about just look at abortion legal abortion never stopped a Christian from having a baby

just like gay marriages didn’t stop Christian marriages or stop Christian husbands from beating their wife’s . Ya know the same thing that happens in marriages across race and religion and nationality

But the GOP wants America to go back to the time of leave it to beaver and grease .

Where all of today’s problems in their peas cult drive sized brains never existed
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[Pete F.]

The GOP agenda - criminalize abortion, ban gun control, deregulate business, and pollute more - is super unpopular.

So Republicans stopped trying to enact it in law and instead nominated politicians to the bench to get their agenda enacted by the unelected, unaccountable branch.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The GOP agenda - criminalize abortion, ban gun control, deregulate business, and pollute more - is super unpopular.

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so why are so many people moving to GOP states.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so why are so many people moving to GOP states.
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Maybe all the bigots are moving there?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Maybe all the bigots are moving there?

maybe. or maybe it’s consistent with the fact that in 2020, a record-number of americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, so there’s data to suggest it’s that people like conservatism more than they like radical liberalism. .
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[wdmso]

GOP's Ted Cruz feuds with Elmo over kids getting COVID-19 vaccines

Cruz took to Twitter where he said Elmo "aggressively" advocates for vaccinating young children without citing scientific evidence.

Yes Ted children all through out America 0 to 5years old are demanding telling their parents Elmo told me to get the vaccine.
Ted knows who watches The show all those children the GOP claim they want to help

The show reached most young children in almost all demographic groups, most significantly economically disadvantaged children; 88% of children from low-income families and 90% of both African-American and Latino children watched the show before entering kindergarten.

Meanwhile Trumps attempted overthrow of the US election gets no attention from Ted
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[wdmso]

Trump Group Pays for Jan. 6 Lawyers, Raising Concerns of Witness Pressure
The former president’s political organization and allies have paid for or promised to cover legal fees for witnesses, as the House inquiry suggests he is trying to influence testimony.

But Liz hugged a woman instead of shaking hands like men do. So Something fishy in Denmark
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[wdmso]

Texas Paxton, has signaled that he is willing to revisit the state’s anti-sodomy law, which was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003 to protect intimacy between same-sex partners.

When are women in Texas getting burkas
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Texas Paxton, has signaled that he is willing to revisit the state’s anti-sodomy law, which was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003 to protect intimacy between same-sex partners.

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Relax little buckaroo, you live in Mass, you’ll be able to enjoy Pride Month any way you choose
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Relax little buckaroo, you live in Mass, you’ll be able to enjoy Pride Month any way you choose

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and now that we know that men can menstruate and get pregnant, he can still get an abortion if he chooses....

I suspect a lot of leftists out there probably think wdmso, pete, gs and paul are the fringe whackjob element of their wing....

"So, while Naomi is still a pro-choice leftist, she’s smart and intellectually honest. For that reason, she sees the Dobbs decision that reversed Roe v. Wade as an inevitable response to the overreach in which the pro-choice movement engaged:

I believe that the Dobbs decision was an almost inevitable reaction to devastating overreach by the organized pro-choice movement, especially in the last twenty years.

In 1995, Naomi admitted that abortion is the death of a child but rationalized that, in terms of women’s needs, it was still for the greater good. She also warned that the abortion movement would be harmed if it persisted in the lie that the fetus is “a clump of cells” and insisted on pushing abortion later and later into a pregnancy.
After reviewing her stance in 1995, Naomi continued:

I also warned that such mechanistic, amoral language and such increasingly monstrous policies would eventually also create a political scenario that in time was certain to lose: these policies would eventually lose us the reasonable middle: the majority of the country that supports abortion rights in the first trimester but that withdraws its support progressively as pregnancies progress.

Pro-choice activists were not content to defend the right to terminate a pregnancy in the first trimester, which are the limits on readily available abortion throughout Western Europe (where, notably, there is almost no anti-choice activism).

The organized feminist left were not content to use the language or policies that polls supported, of seeking a country in which abortion would be “safe, legal and rare.”

Rather, they pushed, in state after state, to enshrine that “right” up until very the day of a baby’s birth.

At what point does a “right” become a murder?"

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Relax little buckaroo, you live in Mass, you’ll be able to enjoy Pride Month any way you choose
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Yep because it’s still legal in some states

Outlawing in other states is Ok


Conservatives logic hard at work making excuses


Odd the GOP supports letting Trump hitting the nation in the seat over and over .. but what happens behind a closed door in Texas omg
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[Pete F.]

Stable Genius’s at work

"Hours after the Supreme Court action, the Buckeye state had outlawed any abortion after six weeks. Now this doctor had a 10-year-old patient in the office who was six weeks and three days pregnant."
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[Pete F.]

Mississippi legislators openly discuss using dogs at airports to sniff women leaving the state.

The dogs can tell if a woman is pregnant.
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[Pete F.]

Three days after Dobbs, an Indiana OB-GYN got a call from a child abuse doctor in Ohio, which had banned abortion after six weeks with no rape exception.

"Now this doctor had a 10-year-old patient in the office who was six weeks and three days pregnant."
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[Pete F.]

Things that reduce abortions: sex education, free contraceptives, paid maternity leave, affordable childcare, free pre-K, livable wages, affordable housing, and universal healthcare.

Things that don’t reduce abortions: bans
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Things that reduce abortions: sex education, free contraceptives, paid maternity leave, affordable childcare, free pre-K, livable wages, affordable housing, and universal healthcare.

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so basically free stuff.......

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

so basically free stuff.......

yup. only more government can reduce abortions. Individuals are powerless to act in a way to reduce abortions.

Think of how revealing that post is. Only the government can save us from ourselves. Wow.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yup. only more government can reduce abortions. Individuals are powerless to act in a way to reduce abortions.

Think of how revealing that post is. Only the government can save us from ourselves. Wow.
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So just how will a law against abortions stop them?
You think they were invented in 1973?
Benjamin Franklin published a book that he added a chapter to about how to abort a pregnancy.
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