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Old 07-22-2022, 10:13 AM   #1
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All of the multiple links I saw have the per capita debt at like $11K. average family is 2.2 or so. Doesn't come up w/$65K per taxpayer.

So you want the fed to charge taxes on $ people don't have (the state has already received that $ due to state income taxes) ?

even with SALT, there is a huge transfer of $ from blue states to red states (in KY 35% of state GDP. If that was lowered it would have a huge impact over time and prob. flip the equation.
"So you want the fed to charge taxes on $ people don't have"

I don't get a federal income tax deduction for groceries, and that's money I no longer have. why should i get one because I choose to live in a high tax state? You use highways and rely on the US military the same way a NH resident does, but you pay less for those things because you live in CT. There's no way to defend that.

So let's be clear, you're not in favor of rich people giving money to poor people via taxes? I thought liberals were all about "spreading the wealth around".
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So let's be clear, you're not in favor of rich people giving money to poor people via taxes? I thought liberals were all about "spreading the wealth around".
LOL. Keep trying to state something I NEVER said.
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LOL. Keep trying to state something I NEVER said.
Well, you keep saying (I think?) you have some quarrel with blue states (disproportionately made up of wealthy people) transferring money to red states (disproportionately made up of poor people).

You also have to adjust your numbers for where the biggest military bases and defense contractors are, which states have the most highways, etc...

If CT is being unfairly treated by the federal government, shouldn't our congressional delegation (100% democrats) try to fix that for us?
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Well, you keep saying (I think?) you have some quarrel with blue states (disproportionately made up of wealthy people) transferring money to red states (disproportionately made up of poor people). I'm just pointing out the facts.
I'm glad you are finally admitting you agree there is a huge transfer of $.


You also have to adjust your numbers for where the biggest military bases and defense contractors are, which states have the most highways, etc...I don't have to adjust the #s - those facts are in it. But those all benefit those states by salaries, purchasing of things, etc. which all impact taxes.

If CT is being unfairly treated by the federal government, shouldn't our congressional delegation (100% democrats) try to fix that for us?
Most people recognize it and are willing to help the poorer states/areas. Just as you and I say thank you to someone who is helping us out/giving us something, it would be nice for those red states to show some appreciation.
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That awkward uncomfortable feeling you have is cognitive dissonance. It might make you feel verklempt. So just talk among yourselves. I'll give you a topic: "Trump played us all."
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Amazing to see the GOP sheep following their orders ! The usual suspects are attacking wind again... in a Red State who wanted an independent Grid and bult the wind farms

Texas has the largest % of wind then any other state

So why would texas with all its gas and oil resources depend on wind

Because they don't depend on wind their to cheap and profit driven to build in redundancy their system

While in total denial why it's so hot worldwide to begin with and why their grid is so vulnerable to extreme weather and of course

The Texas Interconnection is maintained as a separate grid for political, rather than technical reasons,
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Amazing to see the GOP sheep following their orders ! The usual suspects are attacking wind again... in a Red State who wanted an independent Grid and bult the wind farms

Texas has the largest % of wind then any other state

So why would texas with all its gas and oil resources depend on wind

Because they don't depend on wind their to cheap and profit driven to build in redundancy their system

While in total denial why it's so hot worldwide to begin with and why their grid is so vulnerable to extreme weather and of course

The Texas Interconnection is maintained as a separate grid for political, rather than technical reasons,
you say texas is too cheap and profit driven to expand its wind. you said in the same breath that they use more wind than any other state. So why aren’t you even more critical
of all the other 49 states that use wind even less than TX does? aren’t those states even more cheap and profit driven than TX?

Talk about wanting to have it both ways.
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you say texas is too cheap and profit driven to expand its wind. you said in the same breath that they use more wind than any other state. So why aren’t you even more critical
of all the other 49 states that use wind even less than TX does? aren’t those states even more cheap and profit driven than TX?

Talk about wanting to have it both ways.
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Baloney as usual
Just because you have some doesn’t make you a leader.
Texas only produces 4% of its power from renewable sources.
They have improved about 5% over the past five years.
Other states range from .75% to 100%
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Baloney as usual
Just because you have some doesn’t make you a leader.
Texas only produces 4% of its power from renewable sources.
They have improved about 5% over the past five years.
Other states range from .75% to 100%
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wdmso said texas has the most. so every other state is doing worse. but they only state he calls out, is the state that buses wind the most, because it’s texas.

makes all kinds of sense.
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7/23/22

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-still...-polls-1727393


the recession probably in't going to help.....

guess that Taco comment didn't go over too well....

NEW LOW: Biden approval rating hits all-time low, only 19% support among Hispanics, poll shows
President Biden's approval rating hit an all-time low of 31%


should start calling him "NEW LOW" Brandon

"NEW LOW BRANDON"
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wdmso said texas has the most. so every other state is doing worse. but they only state he calls out, is the state that buses wind the most, because it’s texas.

makes all kinds of sense.
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You really receive compensation for your skill with numbers?

Texas is a big state in size and population

It produces a lot of carbon per capita

It actually does more than most for renewables

It takes planning and intent to excel at renewables.

The future is not carbon based energy and failure to realize that puts us behind.
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wdmso said texas has the most. so every other state is doing worse. but they only state he calls out, is the state that buses wind the most, because it’s texas.

makes all kinds of sense.
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he thinks a state that had no windmills and then adds a windmill therefore increasing it's wind production by 100% is better than one whose % increase is much lower because they have so many existing windmills...particularly if it's Texas or Florida because he hates Texas and Florida.....he's an idiot

June 7, 2022

HOUSTON — Texas leads the nation in wind power generation. It makes up about 20% of the state's energy usage.

Daniel Cohan, an Associate Professor in the Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering at Rice University, said that's because of a major push made several years ago toward identifying competitive, renewable energy zones.


"The state got all sides together and made a plan with about $7 billion of investments in transmission lines, more than any other state was going at the time," Cohan said. "So the wind boom we've had was made possible by that foresight and innovative program."

So, how are the wind and solar farms helping to keep the lights on in Texas?

"If it hadn't been for the tremendous growth we've had, especially in solar the past few years, we would have already been experiencing rolling blackouts even with that heat wave we got in May and really can't imagine how the grid would handle this week's heat wave," Cohan said.


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Texas led the country in new renewable energy projects last year
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July 15 2022 LA TIMES California landfills are filling up with toxic solar panels
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you say texas is too cheap and profit driven to expand its wind. you said in the same breath that they use more wind than any other state. So why aren’t you even more critical
of all the other 49 states that use wind even less than TX does? aren’t those states even more cheap and profit driven than TX?

Talk about wanting to have it both ways.
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To bad Texas isn’t as redundant as. You are. Which your usual false equivalences.. ps get back to me when other states Fail like Texas grid has repeatedly.. you really should take some current history lessons .. it might help your blindness
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To bad Texas isn’t as redundant as. You are. Which your usual false equivalences.. ps get back to me when other states Fail like Texas grid has repeatedly.. you really should take some current history lessons .. it might help your blindness
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you said TX has the highest % of wind, yet you criticized them for
not doing enough.

if you’re right that TX had the highest %, that necessarily means that CT and MA have a lower % from wind. But you won’t criticize them.

That’s some serious logic wayne.
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you said TX has the highest % of wind, yet you criticized them for
not doing enough.

if you’re right that TX had the highest %, that necessarily means that CT and MA have a lower % from wind. But you won’t criticize them.

That’s some serious logic wayne.
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You don’t follow to well do you? you can’t understand spending money on redundancy over all isn’t the the same thing as just building some wind farms .. to bad you can’t show we’re I criticized Texas wind

It’s the Texas government blaming renewables for their grid problems not me.. like I said you’re short on history .
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The usual suspects are attacking wind again...
who is attacking wind?...I love wind and solar, I spent May off the grid...solar was my source of electricity, I'm investigating a small, portable wind turbine because wind is persistent where I go in the spring and I love being off the grid..I'd be buying the new Subaru ev this fall if it wasn't the first year for it and I'd like to see better range....probably next year.....I hope they put a wall of wind turbines around Nantucket

I wonder how many electric vehicles pete, wayne, gs and paul drive currently...
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who is attacking wind?...I love wind and solar, I spent May off the grid...solar was my source of electricity, I'm investigating a small, portable wind turbine because wind is persistent where I go in the spring and I love being off the grid..I'd be buying the new Subaru ev this fall if it wasn't the first year for it and I'd like to see better range....probably next year.....I hope they put a wall of wind turbines around Nantucket

I wonder how many electric vehicles pete, wayne, gs and paul drive currently...
Take a RAV hybrid for a ride. 40+ MPG and 450mile range on mine. Good compromise until the next vehicle/ev for me.

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Take a RAV hybrid for a ride. 40+ MPG and 450mile range on mine. Good compromise until the next vehicle/ev for me.
I like that but I need a Subaru for my Bernie Sanders bumper sticker....
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I like that but I need a Subaru for my Bernie Sanders bumper sticker....
Don’t forget, you’ll need one of these too..


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who is attacking wind?...I love wind and solar, I spent May off the grid...solar was my source of electricity, I'm investigating a small, portable wind turbine because wind is persistent where I go in the spring and I love being off the grid..I'd be buying the new Subaru ev this fall if it wasn't the first year for it and I'd like to see better range....probably next year.....I hope they put a wall of wind turbines around Nantucket

I wonder how many electric vehicles pete, wayne, gs and paul drive currently...
better crank up those solar panels and propellers...

Spoken like a true believer
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“We [Hungarians] are not a mixed race, and we do not want to become a mixed race either”

This was Viktor Orban at Baile Tusnad just now, tearing into Western Europeans for “mixing with non-Europeans”

To all the Orban-fans out there: *this* is what you’re supporting

Orban is scheduled to be the opening speaker at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on August 4 in Dallas. Will any of the American speakers--who'll include many GOP presidential candidates--say a word objecting to this, let alone withdraw from the conference?
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“We [Hungarians] are not a mixed race, and we do not want to become a mixed race either”

This was Viktor Orban at Baile Tusnad just now, tearing into Western Europeans for “mixing with non-Europeans”

To all the Orban-fans out there: *this* is what you’re supporting

Orban is scheduled to be the opening speaker at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on August 4 in Dallas. Will any of the American speakers--who'll include many GOP presidential candidates--say a word objecting to this, let alone withdraw from the conference?
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There might be 1 RINO who will do that but doubtfully more than that.
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wdmso, biden needs to be on air force 1. kerry doesn’t. i dont care if kerry flies private, but if he chooses to do so, i don’t want to hear him lecture me about reducing my carbon footprint. lead by example, have you ever heard that phrase before?

if he can fly private, so can anyone
else.

how is he not being a huge hypocrite?
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wdmso, biden needs to be on air force 1. kerry doesn’t. i dont care if kerry flies private, but if he chooses to do so, i don’t want to hear him lecture me about reducing my carbon footprint. lead by example, have you ever heard that phrase before?

if he can fly private, so can anyone
else.

how is he not being a huge hypocrite?
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So does lead by example only work for those you oppose?
You said that leaders you like don’t have to be examples of moral leadership, but ones you don’t are required to?
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So does lead by example only work for those you oppose?
You said that leaders you like don’t have to be examples of moral leadership, but ones you don’t are required to?
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Trump wasn’t elected to be the moral behavior czar, if he was, he’d have no business acting as he does. .

Kerry is the climate czar, yet voluntarily chooses to leave a massive carbon footprint, just for his own luxury and excessive convenience.

A president being a jerk, and a climate czar leaving a huge carbon footprint, don’t seem to be the same thing.
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Trump wasn’t elected to be the moral behavior czar, if he was, he’d have no business acting as he does. .

Kerry is the climate czar, yet voluntarily chooses to leave a massive carbon footprint, just for his own luxury and excessive convenience.

A president being a jerk, and a climate czar leaving a huge carbon footprint, don’t seem to be the same thing.
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Yea morals don’t count

If we had a functioning democracy, our politicians would impose a new super-tax on private jet users, but instead, the entire cost of a private jet can be used as a tax deduction, while teachers can only deduct $250 for school supplies on their taxes.
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If we had a functioning democracy, our politicians would impose a new super-tax on private jet users, but instead, the entire cost of a private jet can be used as a tax deduction, while teachers can only deduct $250 for school supplies on their taxes.
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“morals don’t count”

How come they don’t count with the Clintons?

I don’t care about morals in my president. I care that he gets the job done. Morals are nice in a distant executive, but not vital. I’d rather have a pr*ck who gets the job done ( Clinton, Trump) than a nice guy who can’t do anything right.

morals only matter to you, when a republican is in charge.
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wdmso, biden needs to be on air force 1. kerry doesn’t. i dont care if kerry flies private, but if he chooses to do so, i don’t want to hear him lecture me about reducing my carbon footprint. lead by example, have you ever heard that phrase before?

if he can fly private, so can anyone
else.

how is he not being a huge hypocrite?
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You love your marching orders

Climate buster: Biden ‘green czar’ John Kerry’s jet unleashes tons of CO2

And of course you latch on to the head line.

The jet, a Gulfstream GIV-SP, has made 48 trips lasting more than 60 hours and released an estimated 715,886 pounds — or 325 metric tons — of carbon dioxide since Biden entered the White House in January 2021, Fox News reported

FYI

The jet belongs to a charter company, Flying Squirrel LLC, which is owned by Kerry’s wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry.


More Conservatives lies and twisted truth and the gullible like your self get gut hooked every time

Another stellar observation if Biden vetos a bill he’s and obstructionist

You truly have no idea what an obstructionist. Is and what party whole policy agenda is obstructing like I said you don’t pay attention you only read headlines fed to you by your handlers


McConnell Signals GOP Will Run on Pure Obstruction in the Midterms


Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s plan for the coming year is entirely unsurprising.

“Mitch McConnell has told colleagues and donors Senate Republicans won’t release a legislative agenda before next year’s midterms,

Vote for us the GOP says

The voters ask what’s your plan!

GOP response none off your business ! just stfu and vote for Republican. The Dems are destroying our nation with their communists and socialists ways
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What the “conservatives” taught young adults at Churning Point

Lowlights from TPUSA's Student Action Summit

- “My pronoun is kiss my ass”
- "I have never been an escort for Senator Ted Cruz"
- "Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb"
- "We have to defeat the climate crisis hoax"
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- “My pronoun is kiss my ass”
- "I have never been an escort for Senator Ted Cruz"
- "Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb"
- "We have to defeat the climate crisis hoax"
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