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Old 07-31-2009, 05:36 AM   #1
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Thumbs down F-ing brakes

As i left the boat ramp yesterday....

the vehicle seemed to be running a little sluggish
but i couldn't figure out what the deal was....

later..... i detected that all to familiar smell of brake pads
getting hot....

i guess the friggan calipers are semi seized up .....

it's always sumthin....
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:41 PM   #2
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I agree, it's always sumtin. Just after I replace all 4 tires I felt that dreaded thump, thump thump of my rotors out of whack.
I replaced the rear but now I have to wait for the fronts.
Fronts not so bad, yet.
Funny thing is the pads were in A-1 shape.
No time and no funds. Besides it's time to fish and I need my camper on the truck.
I'll be saving all my money and repairs for November.


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Old 07-31-2009, 03:19 PM   #3
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that thump, thump, thump

can happen as a result of rust on the rotor from it just sitting

so there can be nothing but a little rust making that happen.

My beast is rather heavy so since i have a lead foot i always make sure it can stop real FAST........

you never know when someone is gonna lock them up for no reason what so ever.

Had a guy yesterday pull in front of me so fast that i thought i was going to clip his rear corner and roll his car like the police do for a Runner.... good thing --->i was driving slow .......
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:00 PM   #4
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Well we were hoping that it was something as easy and as cheap as that but NOPE! Even thought it may just be the ABS sensor. The rotors were actually squared! Could not even be turned.
That is from driving constantly with a 2500(empty) 5500 full camper on the back.
I am lucky to have a mechanic in the family and we trade labor costs.
I can't stop fast when driving that thing so I just pray that the morons stay out of my way.


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Old 07-31-2009, 05:37 PM   #5
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that reminds of an episode....ha ha ha
thinking about it being squared....

i'm driving my Hot VW down route 6 leaving fairhaven heading
EAST....and all of a sudden as i round the curve....
i see this tire pass me and boogie down the road....

i'm laughing....saying some friggan idiot just lost a tire....
but the idiot was me.... suddenly the car tilts
and i can barely control it to a stop.....
as i see the tire still going and it hits this lady's Cadillac

i get out to survey the Damage and she comes over to give me a bunch
of crap about my tire hitting her car...
so i let her rant and Rave for awhile....

then i started to get real MAD -> like dangerous now
and i stood up from a crouched position and said
LOOK lady i wasn't driving the dammed tire !
and i had no control where it was going...
steam coming out of my Nostrils.....

my can of spinach was about to be opened ---LOL

she then got the message and stormed off screaming obscenities
so i yelled, well then F U too - ya crazy Beotch - laughing...
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:33 PM   #6
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that reminds of an episode....ha ha ha
thinking about it being squared....

i'm driving my Hot VW down route 6 leaving fairhaven heading
EAST....and all of a sudden as i round the curve....
i see this tire pass me and boogie down the road....

i'm laughing....saying some friggan idiot just lost a tire....
but the idiot was me.... suddenly the car tilts
and i can barely control it to a stop.....
as i see the tire still going and it hits this lady's Cadillac

i get out to survey the Damage and she comes over to give me a bunch
of crap about my tire hitting her car...
so i let her rant and Rave for awhile....

then i started to get real MAD -> like dangerous now
and i stood up from a crouched position and said
LOOK lady i wasn't driving the dammed tire !
and i had no control where it was going...
steam coming out of my Nostrils.....

my can of spinach was about to be opened ---LOL

she then got the message and stormed off screaming obscenities
so i yelled, well then F U too - ya crazy Beotch - laughing...
Sorry about the tire coming off, but that is a FUNNY STORY craig!

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Old 08-02-2009, 05:21 PM   #7
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Sorry about the tire coming off, but that is a FUNNY STORY craig!
omg! he got it right.... HEY mikey ! thanks Frank

that was many years ago... and i was lucky i didn't roll
the damn car.... the curve i was in saved me from that...
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i rolled a bug and flipped it many times 5 years later....
and almost got killed by my heavy tool box as we both tumbled inside...
i quit driving VW's (bugs) after that...

finally i was ejected out of the rear side window and launched
150 feet down the road.... i remember looking down at the tree tops
thinking i had fallen from an airplane...

i had a really good concussion and allot of glass in my face and back
....but didnt break any bones... but i sure did bruise most of them.....
my wife took one look at me and instantly Barfed....

when i looked in the mirror .... it was like someone else was looking back...
and that's real scary

that was friday...i was back to work on monday...

->at the shop.....no one gave me any sh!t after that day....
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:23 PM   #8
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I just dropped off the fishin vehicle..... for repairs...
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:34 PM   #9
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I'm going where I'm going...
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:31 PM   #10
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Never ends.


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Old 08-02-2009, 08:35 PM   #11
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just replaced the rear rotors on my Jeep Diesel. Could not be turned.
Damn thing stops quick now, even with the boat attached, when the bimbo on the cellphone drinkin a coolata tries to occupy the same space as me
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Old 08-03-2009, 04:46 PM   #12
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all fixed

weird problem.... Just as i thought...

the hoses that supply brake fluid to the front brakes
had a piece of interior lining come off making it
essentially a one way valve so the calipers cannot
retract or take their sweet time doing so....

I am posting this for those of you with older vehicles
just in case you have a similar problem
but i'd imagine this is rare.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:02 PM   #13
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bill isn't that under warranty still?

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just replaced the rear rotors on my Jeep Diesel. Could not be turned.
Damn thing stops quick now, even with the boat attached, when the bimbo on the cellphone drinkin a coolata tries to occupy the same space as me
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:12 PM   #14
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bill isn't that under warranty still?
Nope, brakes under normal wear are not covered under warranty
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:23 PM   #15
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I have to replace pads and rotors on my wife's hyundai suv, they want $500!!
that sounds wayyy too high right?
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:59 PM   #16
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I have to replace pads and rotors on my wife's hyundai suv, they want $500!!
that sounds wayyy too high right?
yes way to high!!

pads and rotors are around 30 for both per wheel
depending on quality of course

figure 15- 20 minutes per wheel or 1 1/2 hours labor

so go to somewhere that only does brakes and get an estimate
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I Paid $179 for parts for my F-250 Super Duty/
I was very lucky and didn't have to pay labor (traded it)


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Old 08-04-2009, 03:48 PM   #18
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and those are much bigger parts at $45 per wheel
so i wasn't too far off the mark
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that thump, thump, thump

can happen as a result of rust on the rotor from it just sitting

so there can be nothing but a little rust making that happen.

My beast is rather heavy so since i have a lead foot i always make sure it can stop real FAST........

you never know when someone is gonna lock them up for no reason what so ever.

Had a guy yesterday pull in front of me so fast that i thought i was going to clip his rear corner and roll his car like the police do for a Runner.... good thing --->i was driving slow .......

My truck I have on the mainland has brake problems every coupe years and it happened again yesterday. It sits in a parking lot near the water year round and doesn't get used for months on end. Sometimes as long as 5 or 6 months. Then I jump into it and hit the highway. I have brought it in several times and they say there is nothing wrong, just that I need to use it more. I may just replace everything.
Breaks suck. Trailer brakes, truck brakes, I have break problems constantly.
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thanks guys, a brake place came back with $400, which seems more resonable, but these are only the front!!!

what the hell....I guess I don't have a choice here...
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:46 PM   #21
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loose tire video

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/....day.ever.ktrk
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:40 PM   #22
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Some cars the front rotors are also the hubs.Not sure about hyundai .The flap in the brake line is a pretty rare but good find.I've seen old diesel fuel lines do that and cripple the big rigs.Most trucks use hard plastic hose for fuel.Problem solved when they stopped using rubber.Not sure what the car place charges for labor but estimated parts are close to 200$$ for front brakes and rotors unless the rotors are just cheap bolt on style then the price is more like 100 -150 $$.Labor for trucks is in the 75-100 dollar mark.Cars I don't know.I'd imagine less because of the flat rate scale.I've seen trucks with disc brakes have the disc break completely away from the center part.I hate doing brakes.Did a 4 wheel rear brake job on a freightliner today.That bill was far over 1G$$.Did the clutch and flywheel on the same rig yesterday along with the steering column and a few tires.My knees are paying the price.
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