Ukraine

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Gotta love the fact that Zelensky told Biden to STFU......that's awesome.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukra...-report-2022-1
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Another FJB flag flyer speaks

Seems you haven’t been following Ukraine that closely

DEC 16th

Russia could invade us ‘in the blink of an eye,’ Ukrainian foreign minister warns

JAN 28th. But now the message has changed.

Ukraine's president told Biden to 'calm down' Russian invasion warnings, saying he was creating unwanted panic: report

So which is It?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Another FJB flag flyer speaks

Seems you haven’t been following Ukraine that closely

DEC 16th

Russia could invade us ‘in the blink of an eye,’ Ukrainian foreign minister warns

JAN 28th. But now the message has changed.

Ukraine's president told Biden to 'calm down' Russian invasion warnings, saying he was creating unwanted panic: report

So which is It?
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Just like the science changing, so do current events, the latest was that their prez told our prez to STFU

I kept the reply short to help with your comprehension issues.
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[wdmso]

not sure if the MAGA world or Republicans pay any attention to past events

Republican after Republican keep parroting the same message

Putin 'Smells Weak US and' What happened on Trump's watch? Nothing,''

But they were singing a different tune in early 2020

Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah described Trump's move as "a gift to Russia" and a "slap in the face at a friend and ally.

retired US Navy Adm. Jim Stravidis, the former top military commander in Europe and NATO, said hurts NATO solidarity overall, and is a gift to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin."

There are few things that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia desires more than the weakening of NATO, 2016

let's revisit Trumps watch on Ukraine and Nato

Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia

Trump’s barrage of attacks ‘beyond belief,’ reeling NATO diplomats say

Trump Belittles NATO in the Run-Up to the Putin Summit july 2018

Trump's Germany troops pullout may be his last gift to Putin before the election

Trump has offered No statements centered on Ukraine have been published on his PAC’s website. Jan 2022... no condemnation towards russia or Putin

and we all know how he tried to Strong Arm Ukraine for Dirt on Biden


So in a nutshell Putin Ask Trump to withdraw troop and destabilize nato and like a good Puppet and he did just that
Just like he Tried to steal the election here in the US

yet republicans refuse to hold him accountable for anything


But their outraged and see

That Biden relaunches 'Cancer Moonshot' initiative aimed at halving rate of cancer deaths by 2047 as arrogance


Why when It comes to Trump everything is somehow a coincidence

never planned or done in coordination with others even when the facts show otherwise ?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

not sure if the MAGA world or Republicans pay any attention to past events

Republican after Republican keep parroting the same message

Putin 'Smells Weak US and' What happened on Trump's watch? Nothing,''

But they were singing a different tune in early 2020

Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah described Trump's move as "a gift to Russia" and a "slap in the face at a friend and ally.

retired US Navy Adm. Jim Stravidis, the former top military commander in Europe and NATO, said hurts NATO solidarity overall, and is a gift to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin."

There are few things that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia desires more than the weakening of NATO, 2016

let's revisit Trumps watch on Ukraine and Nato

Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia

Trump’s barrage of attacks ‘beyond belief,’ reeling NATO diplomats say

Trump Belittles NATO in the Run-Up to the Putin Summit july 2018

Trump's Germany troops pullout may be his last gift to Putin before the election

Trump has offered No statements centered on Ukraine have been published on his PAC’s website. Jan 2022... no condemnation towards russia or Putin

and we all know how he tried to Strong Arm Ukraine for Dirt on Biden


So in a nutshell Putin Ask Trump to withdraw troop and destabilize nato and like a good Puppet and he did just that
Just like he Tried to steal the election here in the US

yet republicans refuse to hold him accountable for anything


But their outraged and see

That Biden relaunches 'Cancer Moonshot' initiative aimed at halving rate of cancer deaths by 2047 as arrogance


Why when It comes to Trump everything is somehow a coincidence

never planned or done in coordination with others even when the facts show otherwise ?

Youre saying the GOP got it all wrong on this? Shocker...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Youre saying the GOP got it all wrong on this? Shocker...

Which Part blaming Biden or ignoring that Trump did Just what Putin wanted divided NATO and pulled Troops out of europe..

Trump and Putin met one-on-one in a room for 2 hours.
“While I had a great meeting with NATO, raising vast amounts of money, I had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Russia,” Trump tweeted Tuesday morning. “Sadly, it is not being reported that way - the Fake News is going Crazy!”

No official readout was Taken and then 12000 troops were ordered to leave europe in 2020 Just before the election




Seems Putin started moving Troops once Trump lost.. another coincidence?? since March experts say they are witnessing something new. Russia has started sending thousands of troops, tanks, artillery and other units to Crimea and regions along its 1,200-mile land border with Ukraine, yet weak Biden Freezes Trump’s Withdrawal of 12,000 Troops From Germany Feb. 4, 2021


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...2ad_story.html

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Which Part blaming Biden or ignoring that Trump did Just what Putin wanted divided NATO and pulled Troops out of europe..

Trump and Putin met one-on-one in a room for 2 hours.
“While I had a great meeting with NATO, raising vast amounts of money, I had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Russia,” Trump tweeted Tuesday morning. “Sadly, it is not being reported that way - the Fake News is going Crazy!”

No official readout was Taken and then 12000 troops were ordered to leave europe in 2020 Just before the election




Seems Putin started moving Troops once Trump lost.. another coincidence?? since March experts say they are witnessing something new. Russia has started sending thousands of troops, tanks, artillery and other units to Crimea and regions along its 1,200-mile land border with Ukraine, yet weak Biden Freezes Trump’s Withdrawal of 12,000 Troops From Germany Feb. 4, 2021


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...2ad_story.html

"Trump did Just what Putin wanted"

The left desperately wanted to paint Trump as soft on Russia. While he obviously has a soft spot for Putin, here's what Trump did with Russian policy...

1) Bombed Syria, Russia's main client, and unleashed the U.S. military in Syria, including against Russians; 2) Armed Ukraine; 3) Weakened the Iran nuclear deal, and would likely soon end it [which Trump later did]; 4) Browbeat NATO allies to increase defense spending; 5) Approved $130 billion in new defense spending; 6) Added low-yield nukes to the U.S. arsenal; 7) Started research and development on a new missile after Russia deployed a missile that did not comply with the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty; 8) Shut down Russia's consulate in San Francisco; and 9) Pumped more U.S. oil and gas, making the U.S. more energy independent.

The left repeats "Trump is a Russian puppet" often enough, that many, like you, will assume it's true, nodding like livestock when you hear it.

The facts are pretty different. He was tough on Russia.

NATO was created to defend against the Soviet Union, which no longer exists. Today's Russia, isn't yesterdays USSR, not by a long shot.

Sorry to demolish a good, liberal, anti Trump rant with facts.
You go ahead and tell me which of those things, Trump didn't do.

You can fill the oceans with Trump's faults. Being soft on Russia, ain't one of them. It says nothing to you that Putin is getting so aggressive now? With Pudding Brain in the White House?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Trump did Just what Putin wanted"

The left desperately wanted to paint Trump as soft on Russia. While he obviously has a soft spot for Putin, here's what Trump did with Russian policy...

1) Bombed Syria, Russia's main client, and unleashed the U.S. military in Syria, including against Russians; 2) Armed Ukraine; 3) Weakened the Iran nuclear deal, and would likely soon end it [which Trump later did]; 4) Browbeat NATO allies to increase defense spending; 5) Approved $130 billion in new defense spending; 6) Added low-yield nukes to the U.S. arsenal; 7) Started research and development on a new missile after Russia deployed a missile that did not comply with the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty; 8) Shut down Russia's consulate in San Francisco; and 9) Pumped more U.S. oil and gas, making the U.S. more energy independent.

The left repeats "Trump is a Russian puppet" often enough, that many, like you, will assume it's true, nodding like livestock when you hear it.

The facts are pretty different. He was tough on Russia.

NATO was created to defend against the Soviet Union, which no longer exists. Today's Russia, isn't yesterdays USSR, not by a long shot.

Sorry to demolish a good, liberal, anti Trump rant with facts.
You go ahead and tell me which of those things, Trump didn't do.

You can fill the oceans with Trump's faults. Being soft on Russia, ain't one of them. It says nothing to you that Putin is getting so aggressive now? With Pudding Brain in the White House?

Sorry but Putin’s puppet let Putin’s GDP grow each year of his administration, undermined Zelinsky, played his idiotic power trips with NATO partners and never forget Helsinki.

The RNC spent years giving cover to the many scandals involving Trump while he was having an affair with Russia, whose President happened to be Trump's leading banker.

If you find yourself echoing Putin - Biden is goading Russia to invade Ukraine - you should reconsider your assumptions. Putin was trained to lie in the KGB, killed innocents, annexed territory, arrested opponents. You trust him? Want to be on his side?

Some people seem surprised the Trump/America First wing of the GOP is so vehemently against helping Ukraine against Putin. But the original America First Committee was vehemently against helping Britain against Hitler. “America First” was wrong then and it’s wrong now.
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