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Old 09-16-2022, 05:59 PM   #1
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:35 AM   #2
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"The Chamber of Commerce of Martha’s Vineyard said the island was facing a “humanitarian crisis” after Florida Governor Ron DeSantis sent just 50 migrants to the island this week. Yet more than 24,000 illegal immigrants would need to arrive on the island for it to equally share the burden faced by Del Rio, Texas, on the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Del Rio area had more than 49,500 migrant encounters in July alone — more than the population of the city itself, which has a population of just over 34,500 people. By contrast, the year-round population of Martha’s Vineyard is 17,000 people and the island welcomed just 50 migrants when the “humanitarian crisis” was triggered."
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Old 09-17-2022, 06:41 AM   #3
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"The Chamber of Commerce of Martha’s Vineyard said the island was facing a “humanitarian crisis” after Florida Governor Ron DeSantis sent just 50 migrants to the island this week. Yet more than 24,000 illegal immigrants would need to arrive on the island for it to equally share the burden faced by Del Rio, Texas, on the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Del Rio area had more than 49,500 migrant encounters in July alone — more than the population of the city itself, which has a population of just over 34,500 people. By contrast, the year-round population of Martha’s Vineyard is 17,000 people and the island welcomed just 50 migrants when the “humanitarian crisis” was triggered."

Maybe you need to look up what an island is
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Old 09-17-2022, 05:28 AM   #4
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the vineyard is going to do what chicago
did, get rid of these people
as fast as they can get them out of their sight.

If liberals believes what they claim to believe, they’d be welcoming the immigrants with open arms. Shows their hypocrisy, which is why it’s dismissed as a stunt. I guess it is a stunt, but a very very effective one.

if you’re opposed to a wall, you’re advocating for more illegal immigration. That’s what you’re supporting. So you should welcome more illegals.
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Old 09-17-2022, 06:36 AM   #5
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the vineyard is going to do what chicago
did, get rid of these people
as fast as they can get them out of their sight.

If liberals believes what they claim to believe, they’d be welcoming the immigrants with open arms. Shows their hypocrisy, which is why it’s dismissed as a stunt. I guess it is a stunt, but a very very effective one.

if you’re opposed to a wall, you’re advocating for more illegal immigration. That’s what you’re supporting. So you should welcome more illegals.
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In January 2021, just before Biden took office, your hero said:

I kept my promises. And today we celebrate an extraordinary milestone: the completion of the promised 450 miles of border wall. … You have some areas that are virtually impossible to get by. So we didn’t need walls everywhere, but… in every region that we’ve built the wall, illegal crossings and drug smuggling have plummeted. … One of the big elements of the wall that make it so successful is we can have far fewer people working.

So Trump believed the wall was working too, and that it wasn’t needed everywhere. Regardless, if his $15 billion, 455‐​mile border wall can be defeated by any small gap anywhere in it, it just goes to show the absurdity of the whole project because gaps can and are being made on a near‐​daily basis.

The Trump border wall failed for all the predictable reasons. Immigrants used cheap ladders to climb over it, or they free climb it. They used cheap power tools to cut through it. They cut through small pieces and squeezed through, and they cut through big sections and drove through. In one small section in 2020, they sawed through at least 18 times that Border Patrol knew about in a month. They also made tunnels. Some tunnels were long, including the longest one ever discovered, but some were short enough just to get past the barrier.
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the vineyard is going to do what chicago
did, get rid of these people
as fast as they can get them out of their sight.

If liberals believes what they claim to believe, they’d be welcoming the immigrants with open arms. Shows their hypocrisy, which is why it’s dismissed as a stunt. I guess it is a stunt, but a very very effective one.

if you’re opposed to a wall, you’re advocating for more illegal immigration. That’s what you’re supporting. So you should welcome more illegals.

Like Scott look up island instead making excuses for your man crush and lack of moral values
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I guess it is a stunt, but a very very effective one.
A stunt, never heard of such a thing
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A stunt, never heard of such a thing
yeah, they should think of it as an opportunity for endless sanctimonious virtue signaling...
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A stunt, never heard of such a thing
they’re all in favor of illegals, as long as they don’t have to see
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they’re all in favor of illegals, as long as they don’t have to see
any.
What the miser class wanted from the dehumanizing Martha's Vineyard stunt was to accuse liberals of hating migrants just as much as they do. It was all geared for the "liberals deport migrants" headlines. They were going to do it regardless of whether it was true, and they have.
The people of Martha's Vineyard can take perfect care of them, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts can activate the National Guard to assist and offer them transportation where they can receive services, they can do everything right. but it won't matter. Misers will lie.
They will say that the National Guard was activated against the migrants, when they were activated on their behalf. They will say that the migrants were "deported," when they were offered voluntary transportation to receive services.
The entire point of the stunt was to make accusations of "liberal hypocrisy" on the grounds that liberals hate migrants just as much as Republicans do. It's not true, of course, but truth is irrelevant. They will lie, and their media organs will perpetuate the lie.
The actual truth will be lost in the confusion, as media that are not explicitly right-wing will start exploring the political winners and losers of the stunt and trying to navigate a middle ground between the truth and the lie.

The truth is that they were scooped up and taken care of despite arriving with no warning or preparation, they are now getting necessary legal help, medical attention if required, and will be far better off than in Texas or Florida.

Notice when places like Martha’s Vineyard prove they can be compassionate to immigrants, the fascists will just try to ship humans to to somewhere else.
Because the point isn’t to *solve* a problem, it’s to make one.
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