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10-28-2016, 08:42 PM
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You guys think wiener showed her his wiener ?
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10-29-2016, 04:33 AM
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removed
Last edited by wdmso; 10-29-2016 at 04:50 AM..
Reason: trying to kick the PG habit
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10-29-2016, 07:40 AM
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Isn't it great
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10-29-2016, 11:22 AM
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One day soon Clinton's association with Huma Abedin is going to really bite her in the azz.
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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10-29-2016, 05:28 PM
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Are you denying her ties with these groups?
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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10-29-2016, 06:24 PM
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10-29-2016, 08:07 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that wieners ex wife forwarded classified info to him for what ever reason. She was on hillary's staff.
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10-29-2016, 09:04 PM
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Got proof that she doesn't? I've read more articles that tie her and her family to those groups than anything that shows she doesn't.
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10-29-2016, 10:05 PM
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Snopes. It has be debunked. Can you please post a link to one of those articles.
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10-29-2016, 10:48 PM
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time to go
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Snopes. It has be debunked. Can you please post a link to one of those articles.
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Here are a few.....
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=90939
How about a link to the snopes debunking?
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10-29-2016, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood
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Exactly. Just because snopes says it's not true, I'm supposed to believe them. They've often been proven wrong.
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10-30-2016, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBo
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Alex jones😁 the alt right.
So you didn't actually search either Google or snopes for Muslim Brothehood and her name. Even prominent Republicans laugh at people trying to link the two. Something right out of McCarthy's playbook. he would be proud.
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10-30-2016, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Alex jones😁 the alt right.
So you didn't actually search either Google or snopes for Muslim Brothehood and her name. Even prominent Republicans laugh at people trying to link the two. Something right out of McCarthy's playbook. he would be proud.
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Could you expand on your McCarthy's playbook comment? I am reading three books on McCarthy and on the Venona papers. The story they tell "debunks" the accepted narrative on McCarthy. |
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10-30-2016, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Alex jones😁 the alt right.
So you didn't actually search either Google or snopes for Muslim Brothehood and her name. Even prominent Republicans laugh at people trying to link the two. Something right out of McCarthy's playbook. he would be proud.
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Of course I did. That doesn't mean I believe snopes though. You seem to place snopes up there as the ultimate authority on everything. Perhaps you should do more research and expand your searches a bit more.  |
The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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10-30-2016, 10:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Alex jones😁 the alt right.
So you didn't actually search either Google or snopes for Muslim Brothehood and her name. Even prominent Republicans laugh at people trying to link the two. Something right out of McCarthy's playbook. he would be proud.
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Huma is probably going to do jail time and take down her boss in the process. This is what happens when you sleep with rats .
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10-30-2016, 12:24 AM
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So opinions on Huma aside, how is it she has the same clearance that Hillary does to access Hillary's email account. The same account that Hillary was using for official State Dept emails.
Oh wait, that's right, Hillary never used that account for classified info. Right! So corrupt.
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10-30-2016, 06:41 AM
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the election that keeps on giving.....
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10-30-2016, 01:53 PM
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Because it makes no sense to keep going around and around. No matter what source link I can post, you will find fault with and keep referring to snopes.
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10-30-2016, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBo
Because it makes no sense to keep going around and around. No matter what source link I can post, you will find fault with and keep referring to snopes.
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But you didn't post ANY sources other than Alex Jones after claiming she had ties to the "Muslim Brotherhood and other radical Islam groups".
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10-30-2016, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
But you didn't post ANY sources other than Alex Jones after claiming she had ties to the "Muslim Brotherhood and other radical Islam groups".
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As I said, you wouldn't accept any opinionated links because they don't align with your way of thinking. So it would just be a waste of time. I'm sure you've read sources other than snopes, but you don't agree with any of them. I only hope Hillary gets brought down at last. Have a nice day.
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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10-31-2016, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBo
I only hope Hillary gets brought down at last.
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Amen to that  |
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10-31-2016, 07:14 AM
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time to go
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
But you didn't post ANY sources other than Alex Jones after claiming she had ties to the "Muslim Brotherhood and other radical Islam groups".
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https://youtu.be/nKt2zaOrxD8
How about some snopes links?
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10-31-2016, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Could you expand on your McCarthy's playbook comment? I am reading three books on McCarthy and on the Venona papers. The story they tell "debunks" the accepted narrative on McCarthy.
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How is the book on the Venona papers? Been told by a few people I need to read up on that.
Lots of Active Measures going on today |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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10-30-2016, 01:56 PM
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I googled the Snopes article on Huma Abedin's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood. The Article did not document any proof that there was no connection. It merely stated that they could not fine one. And then it cited John McCain's defense of Abedin, which also did not prove anything, but merely said he Knew her and traveled with her and Hillary.
I guess we're just supposed to take the words of Snopes and McCain.
On the other hand, there were various other articles that explored the question in much more detail and documentation. This one, for instance:
http://shoebat.com/documents/Huma_Br...ons_072412.pdf
I don't know who to believe. But Snopes did not confirm anything. |
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10-30-2016, 03:10 PM
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Lol. You have a nice day also. Gonna go fishing later. Hopefully the rain is not too bad.
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10-31-2016, 11:55 AM
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Somebody should check on Spence to make sure he's OK although there is the possibility the FBI has seized his devices 😂
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10-31-2016, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Somebody should check on Spence to make sure he's OK although there is the possibility the FBI has seized his devices ��
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He mentioned something about meeting some Loretta chick at the airport and taking one for the team....
He must be going to utilize some of his newly acquired Yoga skills to further the cause...  |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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10-31-2016, 01:51 PM
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He must be going to utilize some of his newly acquired Yoga skills to further the cause... |
Don't knock it till you try it.  |
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-07-2016, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
How is the book on the Venona papers? Been told by a few people I need to read up on that.
Lots of Active Measures going on today
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The Venona papers prove beyond doubt the massive extent that the Soviet Union infiltrated our government during WWII. They also verified the veracity of the previous House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) chaired by Democrat Martin Dies beginning in 1938 which investigated the presence of Communist agents in various as well as very important Federal Government agencies, Cabinets, and close advisers of FDR. They also to a great extent vindicated Republican Joseph McCarthy.
What was revealed was not only that Communist agents were spies, but, probably more important, was their ability to influence U.S. government policy in the most stunning way.
Using Venona, the release of KGB files after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and FBI files (the FBi had done considerable investigation and discovery of the infiltration, but their information was not made use of by the FDR administration), it has been confirmed that not only were those named by the Dies committee and by McCarthy actually working for, or had worked for, the Soviets as spies, but, more importantly, they were able to shift policy in favor of Moscow. The deliverance of Eastern Europe into the Soviet sphere, the abandonment of Chiang Kai-shek and favoring of Mao and the Communists thus forcing China into the Communist sphere, and even the attack on Pearl Harbor, were all influenced and orchestrated by Communist agents (in those cases, Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Laughlin Currie and others) who were employed in High government places as well as being close advisors to FDR. Other policies of agencies created by the New Deal, especially the Agriculture and Labor Departments, were influenced directly by Soviet agents in those and other departments.
So much of what happened then is similarly happening now. As Yogi Berra would say, deja vu all over again--politics being the motive to cover up truth. Even though Dies was a Democrat, the FDR administration, for the most part, did not for various reasons follow through on removing Communist agents from government employment. And it was denied that some close advisors to FDR were Communists (they were). But Dies was not discredited.
McCarthy, on the other hand, was a Republican. When he pointed out the Communist infiltration, and the failure to remove it, the Democrats could not abide someone from the other party being the one pointing out what was obviously true. That would make them and their Hero FDR and his New Deal look bad. So they destroyed McCarthy and created the misconceived notion of "McCarthyism" which has been used ever since as a bludgeon to discredit opponents.
The three books I am reading which lays it all out are: Stalin's Secret Agents by M. Stanton Evans and Herbert Romerstein, Blacklisted by History by M. Stanton Evans, and The Venona Secrets By Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel. The first one is the shortest and easiest read. The latter two are 500+ and 600+ paged tomes. They all are exceedingly well researched, indexed, and laden with notes and footnotes. The latter two having appendixes with copies of documents and the last with an extensive bibliography of sources. Scholarly and reputable works worth reading. Though I am slogging through the long ones and may skip parts in order to finish them.
What also was revealed was the improper security measures and inadequate vetting in hiring or appointing government employees--issues with which we are, arguably, dealing now with refugees, illegal immigrants, and with government employees and advisers (Huma Abedin, e.g.).
Of course, now it is no longer considered by the left a risk to employ those with Marxist leanings. And it would not be surprising if we have been infiltrated to some degree by those with Islamist leanings who have the ear of the administration, influencing it in favor of their agenda (deal with Iran, e.g.).
As you say, lots of Active Measures going on today. Hopefully, the measures don't turn out as horribly as those that shaped events and maps during WWII and its aftermath. Or, even worse for us as a country, a departure from a truly liberal and limited government and the embracing of an authoritarion one. |
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11-07-2016, 08:05 AM
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Trump cries foul as FBI clears Clinton
The FBI director said a fresh inquiry into the Democratic candidate's communications found nothing to change the bureau's conclusion this summer.
Donald Trump has accused the FBI of impropriety..
he loved them last week but like a spoiled child when things didn't go his way back to the real Donald.. 
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