Gun Legislation

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

right so to get or own a gun the authorities have to clear everyone in your home for mental illness...that should be easy

didn't the nuts decide a while back that it was too tough to ban guns so they thought they'd just ban bullets...or at least tax them so much that nobody could afford them...should probably give that a whirl again

an initial
conversation doesn’t need
to be specific. How about we talk about it the way every person it work talks
rationally about proposals. i’m this case how many lives would have been saved in the true mass shootings, and whats the cost i. terms of
liberty, and is it worth the cost. is that so scary or crazy?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

an initial
conversation doesn’t need
to be specific.

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yes it does

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

yes it does

never heard of spitballing, eh?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

never heard of spitballing, eh?
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you need to be specific....

I'm sick of "we need common sense gun legislation" doesn't take a genius to repeat that over and over

you want to ban 100 round clips?...can I own 5 -20 round clips?

what qualifies as mental illness?

if you own guns and have kids at what point as they grow up and exhibit certain behavior do you notify the authorities to come get your guns?

Does the family of a gun owner have to come in every year or two for mental evaluations and background checks?

in order for Adam Lanza's mother to have been required to have fingerprint recognition wouldn't something have to happen to trigger requirement? how does that work?

from PBS

"Before becoming the name behind the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary, Adam Lanza was known as a shy boy who was quiet, withdrawn and seemed to recoil from being touched. He played violent video games and went to shooting ranges with his mother, but hardly showed signs of dangerous behavior."

[nightfighter]

The real issue is existing supply already out there.... As of 2004, an estimated 75 million AK-47s worldwide.... How many AR platforms are out there? How do you convince me to give up one in the face of those numbers out there? How did the felon who killed a California Highway Patrolman last night get his hands on one? It is a slippery slope, with many avenues that need the same coverage as restricting new sales and manufacture...


I am good with more in depth background checks, especially in the area of mental health. But I do share the same concerns as JohnR regarding the human element of the ultimate decision maker....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

I am good with more in depth background checks, especially in the area of mental health. ...

absolutely, which will result in lot's of law abiding gun owners passing mental health screenings...the nuts intent on inflicting harm...will find a way

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

The real issue is existing supply already out there.... r....

this is bigger than MH issues which is a fraction of the issue

the majority of guns used in crimes are legally purchased but are stolen and not reported and with no digital data base near impossible to trace them back to an owner

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by wdmso

this is bigger than MH issues which is a fraction of the issue

the majority of guns used in crimes are legally purchased but are stolen and not reported and with no digital data base near impossible to trace them back to an owner

Which is exactly why I choose not to voluntarily give up any such weapons, rendering me undergunned. But I do agree, in a perfect world, no reason to have these weapons out in our communities...

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

an initial
conversation doesn’t need
to be specific. How about we talk about it the way every person it work talks
rationally about proposals. i’m this case how many lives would have been saved in the true mass shootings, and whats the cost i. terms of
liberty, and is it worth the cost. is that so scary or crazy?
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My initial conversation is not specific. I am willing to do additional background checks and mental health screening. That is my hard line.

To get specific, I need to know how how my rights will not be infringed upon by someone that believes if I want to own a gun, I am crazy. Or that I do not agree with them then I must be crazy or unwell.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

My initial conversation is not specific. I am willing to do additional background checks and mental health screening. That is my hard line.

To get specific, I need to know how how my rights will not be infringed upon by someone that believes if I want to own a gun, I am crazy. Or that I do not agree with them then I must be crazy or unwell.

i don’t think anyone is crazy for wanting to own a gun. liz warren might really believe that, and that’s a problem. but if adam lanzas mother was required to have firearms with fingerprint recognition, the town of newton CT would
be a different place.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i don’t think anyone is crazy for wanting to own a gun. liz warren might really believe that, and that’s a problem. but if adam lanzas mother was required to have firearms with fingerprint recognition, the town of newton CT would
be a different place.
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Fingerprint recognition can fail and if you need something for self defense, really need it, it could fail you. Quick scenario, you are out working on the yard, or working out in your house, super sweaty, and someone breaks into your house and you are unable to unlock your firearm, to defend your family, because your hand is all sweaty, or a battery failed.



I would like to see something that can adress the Adam Lanzas of the world so keep it coming.

I am concerned that the Elizabeth Warrens and Kamala Harrises of the world, or their faithful, would fail normal people in order to further their gun control. This is why we need concrete and impartial systems in place to prevent normal people from being unfairly treated.

Before you say that won't happen, think of all the trivial news items that are improperly reported.