Is this true??

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

so the only people who can possibly know about the scholarship offer and whether or not it occurred are Carson and Westmoreland...right?

I think it's well established now that he never applied and therefore couldn't have been offered admittance let alone a "scholarship."

In the grand scheme it's not a huge deal compared to his other beliefs.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I think it's well established now that he never applied and therefore couldn't have been offered admittance let alone a "scholarship."

In the grand scheme it's not a huge deal compared to his other beliefs.

Fair enough and agreed.

POLITICO went way over the line in their zeal to discredit him. POLITICO reported that Carson's camp admitted a lie, then POLITICO had to take that back. If no one from Carson's camp admitted anything, why did POLITICO report otherwise?

There seems to be exactly zero basis (other than the desire for to do Hilary's dirty work) for politico to claim, in a headline, that Carson's camp admitted to lying.

He's a black conservative, and he's doing well, so he must be destroyed.

They're doing the same to Rubio. Hilary claimed she was "broke" when she left the White House (despite all the stuff they stole on their way out), and nobody said anything. Yet if Rubio's finances are less than stellar, it says something about his ability to be president.

It's a joke.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I think it's well established now that he never applied and therefore couldn't have been offered admittance let alone a "scholarship."

In the grand scheme it's not a huge deal compared to his other beliefs.

I don't believe he ever said he applied...that is also well established...he was very clear that he'd only applied to one school because that was all that he could afford

you have no idea what the conversation was that he had and if you read to the bottom of my most recent post with the articles attached(second article) you'll see that West Point uses "scholarship" to describe the financial arrangement with it's cadets....it is very possible that given his record in ROTC at that time he was told that he would be a good candidate for acceptance and that would include what amounted to a "scholarship"

I don't know that he didn't make this all up...seems very unlikely... and it seems like you are making up more based on nothing and false premise than he can possibly be accused of doing in this case

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

you have no idea what the conversation was that he had...

I don't know that he didn't make this all up...seems very unlikely... and it seems like you are making up more based on nothing and false premise than he can possibly be accused of doing in this case

His conversation in 1969 is irrelevant. The statements in writing contrasted with reality are the issue. I can understand how a 17 year old could take a positive remark for more than it was, not an adult writing books...

Carson seems to be having a hard time defending his personal narrative, which is sad because he's a great success story.

No really, I knifed a guy! I threw rocks! I tried to smash my mom with a hammer!

It's surreal.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It's surreal.

I agree.

How would you describe this...I came under sniper fire! My husband wasn't unfaithful, Newt Gingrich is just making it look that way!

Why can't you just write a few sentences offering your opinions on that?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I agree.

How would you describe this...I came under sniper fire! My husband wasn't unfaithful, Newt Gingrich is just making it look that way!

Why can't you just write a few sentences offering your opinions on that?

Apples and oranges.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Apples and oranges.

You said that before. It is a dodge, not an answer.

Why do Carson's lies make him a liar, but not Hilary's? "Apples and oranges" doesn't answer it. Please be specific...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

His conversation in 1969 is irrelevant. The statements in writing contrasted with reality are the issue. I can understand how a 17 year old could take a positive remark for more than it was, not an adult writing books..."statements in writing contrasted with reality are the issue" please elaborate

Carson seems to be having a hard time defending his personal narrative, which is sad because he's a great success story. he doesn't have any trouble defending it from what I can see

No really, I knifed a guy! I threw rocks! I tried to smash my mom with a hammer! this is impossible?, I don't think he's claimed to have actually knifed anyone and as a kid...I threw lots of rocks, got in fights

It's surreal.

I understand that for you Obama's writing and bizarre associations were not "surreal" and completely dismissable...somehow Carson's are...most likely nothing more than a different standard for folks of different political persuasions which you are quite consistent with...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

most likely nothing more than a different standard for folks of different political persuasions ...

Ding ding ding! Give that man a cigar!

You are better and smarter than this, Spence. If you say "Hilary is a serial liar", I promise that nothing bad will happen. It won't stop her from getting the nomination.