Russia Had Zero Influence On Election Admits Washington Post

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Nah . . . I'll leave it up to you to show whose interests they serve. That sort of stuff is your bag. I may or may not comment on what you have to say about it.

I have consistently, first and foremost, been concerned on this forum about the erosion of the Constitution as the guiding principle of government in our country. The vast residuum of rights reserved to the people that Madison referred to, via the Constitution, even before the Bill of Rights was written, has effectively been erased or become dependent on the whim or desires of Progressive judicial "interpretation." Even, now, most of the "rights" in the Bill of Rights have been surrendered to that Progressive "interpretation." And the final surrender will be the First and Second Amendments. Those two lynchpins of American freedom are the ultimate prize to be captured and "interpreted" into whatever form, or existence, the federal government will allow.

On a basic level now, Federal "deep state" regulatory agencies, as the Twitter Files release is showing, are effectively curtailing First Amendment rights. And if we The People ignore, thus tacitly or willfully allow this to continue, it may eventually become in some future Supreme Court case a recognized fait accompli de jure, by a majority of Progressive SCOTUS Judges "interpretation."

In any case, it is de facto occurring now.

And I suspect you will be fine with all that.

Sure, Trump didn’t try to control all three branches of government, cast aside the results of an election and install himself as President for life like the “strongmen” he admired.

Tell me how impressed the people who wrote the Constitution would be impressed by that.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Sure, Trump didn’t try to control all three branches of government, cast aside the results of an election and install himself as President for life like the “strongmen” he admired.

Tell me how impressed the people who wrote the Constitution would be impressed by that.
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They would probably approve, as you say, that Trump didn't try to do that. Of course, they would strenuously disapprove if he had actually done it.

They certainly would consider your claim (that conservative speech should not be allowed) as a betrayal to the Constitution and nation they had established. They would probably consider you a threat to civil society, and disapprove of how you twist words and actions, lie, in order to attempt to bring about authoritarian, centralized government beyond what is limited in the Constitution.

And they would definitely rail against federal government agencies suppressing political speech of the citizens of this nation.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

They would probably approve, as you say, that Trump didn't try to do that. Of course, they would strenuously disapprove if he had actually done it.

Sure, because only successful bank robbers get charged and successful ones get strenuous disapproval.
Isn’t that what Susan Collins was speaking of when at his first impeachment she thought he had “learned his lesson”?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Sure, because only successful bank robbers get charged and successful ones get strenuous disapproval.
Isn’t that what Susan Collins was speaking of when at his first impeachment she thought he had “learned his lesson”?
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What is so successful about being charged? And if you don't rob a bank, why should you be charged? Sounds like a scam.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

What is so successful about being charged? And if you don't rob a bank, why should you be charged? Sounds like a scam.

Classic Detbuch. Page after pages of how he loves the constitution

But suggest Trump and his supporters never tried to overturn the election ..

I’ll bet someone was disappointed when it failed

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Classic Detbuch. Page after pages of how he loves the constitution

Well, maybe you haven't noticed, but I have discussed "page after pages" of stuff other than the Constitution--a lot of it was with you. Not sure how you missed that. Well, yeah, I can see how after witnessing page after pages of you responding to me by changing the subject or accusing me of saying stuff I didn't say.
It's as if I wasn't really there and you were talking to yourself. As if you were beating your own dead horse.

And, since the Constitution should be the ultimate basis of political decisions, why is bringing it into a discussion on a political forum beating a dead horse? Perhaps you think it's not very relevant and politicians should just be able to do whatever you want them to do.

But suggest Trump and his supporters never tried to overturn the election ..

I never said they never tried. I have said, specifically, that they tried a legal process.

I’ll bet someone was disappointed when it failed

Well, not disappointed, never really thought it would work (for various other reasons than legality).

So what was wrong with the video I posted to start the thread . . .? On the other hand, forget about it or you'll just beat your own dead horse.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Well, not disappointed, never really thought it would work (for various other reasons than legality).

So what was wrong with the video I posted to start the thread . . .? On the other hand, forget about it or you'll just beat your own dead horse.

I never said they never tried. I have said, specifically, that they tried a legal process.

Spoken like a True cult member.
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