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04-10-2016, 12:02 PM
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Obama just came out and said Hillary's emails were no security risk....hmm does he know the head of the FBI keeps a post it note on the camera lens on his laptop fearing it could be hacked and someone may see him furiously shredding papers?
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04-10-2016, 08:09 PM
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And obama said, This is somebody who has served her country for four years as secretary of state,and did nothing wrong and did an outstanding job.".....apparently he forgot about Petreus mishandling of classified information....he spent a life time serving his country...same,same 
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"When its not about money,it's all about money."...
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04-10-2016, 09:33 PM
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Ohhh - this could be fun - two contested and horrible conventions - hard to say who will have more disaffected voters
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04-11-2016, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
And obama said, This is somebody who has served her country for four years as secretary of state,and did nothing wrong and did an outstanding job.".....apparently he forgot about Petreus mishandling of classified information....he spent a life time serving his country...same,same
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Petraeus intentionally mishandled previously classified information and then lied about it. It's a completely different situation. |
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04-10-2016, 08:49 PM
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I got two growlers of beer riding on Hillary being the next president.....if she wins I'll need to drink heavily.
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04-10-2016, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I got two growlers of beer riding on Hillary being the next president.....if she wins I'll need to drink heavily.
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You'll need more than 2 growlers. I suggest a MMJ card and cancel cable for 4 years.
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04-11-2016, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
You'll need more than 2 growlers. I suggest a MMJ card and cancel cable for 4 years.
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Who says I'm stopping after two....
At least the first two will be free....kinda like Bernie gave them to me 
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04-11-2016, 07:38 AM
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse...
And pretending that you use a cloth to wipe a hard drive is a lame excuse....
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04-11-2016, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Ignorance of the law is no excuse...
And pretending that you use a cloth to wipe a hard drive is a lame excuse....
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According to the DOJ her server wasn't illegal. Still have yet to see any laws broken with mishandling of information either.
Just as important, intent makes a huge difference in taking legal action. |
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04-11-2016, 07:39 AM
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What was her original excuse for this server anyway? Seems to me that having a private server is just a digital way of being able to burn your mail before an investigation.
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04-11-2016, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
What was her original excuse for this server anyway? Seems to me that having a private server is just a digital way of being able to burn your mail before an investigation.
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She had gotten used to having everything on a single Blackberry, they requested a secure Blackberry like POTUS has which for some reason which I still can't comprehend was denied so she just used the server they already had set up for non-confidential work email.
The idea that she would do this for some nefarious reason doesn't hold much water. You're communicating with people on government systems so anything work related is going to be out there. If you really wanted to hide something you'd never mix the two either. |
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04-11-2016, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
The idea that she would do this for some nefarious reason doesn't hold much water.
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ne·far·i·ous
nəˈferēəs/
adjective
(typically of an action or activity) wicked or criminal. = Hillary Clinton |
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04-11-2016, 09:57 AM
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I keep saying this....she was SecState....every piece of communication she received should be treated, at the very least, as unclassified but sensitive. Even a lunch date with someone shows the movement of the 5th highest official in the United States. Total disregard on her part for securing her communications
So she's either to big of a liar to be president or to stupid to be president.....it's one or the other.
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04-11-2016, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I keep saying this....she was SecState....every piece of communication she received should be treated, at the very least, as unclassified but sensitive. Even a lunch date with someone shows the movement of the 5th highest official in the United States. Total disregard on her part for securing her communications
So she's either to big of a liar to be president or to stupid to be president.....it's one or the other.
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Then why not issue her a secure blackberry? From what we know right now the emails on her sever were safer than the ones on state.gov |
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04-11-2016, 11:08 AM
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Then why not issue her a secure blackberry? From what we know right now the emails on her sever were safer than the ones on state.gov |
She didn't want the blackBerry. Remember she want to carry too many devices ? Lmao she's an idiot
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04-11-2016, 02:07 PM
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She didn't want the blackBerry. Remember she want to carry too many devices ? Lmao she's an idiot
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That's one check mark in the "Too Stupid" column
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04-11-2016, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Then why not issue her a secure blackberry? From what we know right now the emails on her sever were safer than the ones on state.gov |
So her convenience comes before security....
Again.....too big of a liar or too stupid????
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04-11-2016, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
So her convenience comes before security....
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I'm sure she had people telling her it was ok. She's not an expert and wouldn't have moved forward without at least legal council doing a review. Again, this was before they changed the policy...
Seems like this is one that slipped through the cracks. Doesn't appear to be mal intent, nobody was hurt that we know of, what's the problem again? |
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04-11-2016, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I'm sure she had people telling her it was ok. She's not an expert and wouldn't have moved forward without at least legal council doing a review. Again, this was before they changed the policy...
Seems like this is one that slipped through the cracks. Doesn't appear to be mal intent, nobody was hurt that we know of, what's the problem again?
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....and there's another check mark in the "Too Stupid" column.
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04-11-2016, 10:03 AM
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She's untouchable. It's as simple as that. If she was lower on the totem pole she would have bee reprimanded. If she was even lower she would have been fired. And if she was even lower she would go to jail. Imagine if a super low ranking federal employee had a private server.
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04-11-2016, 12:37 PM
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It's just shocking that the State Department would help large US businesses navigate trade issues with foreign governments isn't it? |
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04-11-2016, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It's just shocking that the State Department would help large US businesses navigate trade issues with foreign governments isn't it?
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As the article points out, that is called crony capitalism. Something Hillary is so much against, and which she promises to clean up. And what's even more smelly is the money Corning donated to Hilary and to her foundation. Not illegal. But . . . remember, Spence . . . the smell test. Your beloved smell test. Do you detect a stink there, Spence? |
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04-11-2016, 01:00 PM
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As the article points out, that is called crony capitalism. Something Hillary is so much against, and which she promises to clean up. And what's even more smelly is the money Corning donated to Hilary and to her foundation. Not illegal. But . . . remember, Spence . . . the smell test. Your beloved smell test. Do you detect a stink there, Spence?
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Not based on that information alone. It's no secret that as NY Senator Clinton developed a good relationship with Corning which actually was part of her job. If it's crony capitalism or not would really depend on the dynamics of the relationship.
If Clinton's back is scratched for helping Corning with funding or a trade issue that's beneficial for the US economy or workers, that's not the same thing as routing tax dollars for weapons the DoD doesn't want or a bridge to nowhere...
It's also wrong to assume that just because money is changing there's an under the table deal in play. Often the business interest who's working the hardest to educate the legislator will shape their opinion and certainly gain influence.
I'd note that as Sec State she helped other big US businesses beyond Corning. |
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04-11-2016, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Not based on that information alone. It's no secret that as NY Senator Clinton developed a good relationship with Corning which actually was part of her job. If it's crony capitalism or not would really depend on the dynamics of the relationship.
If Clinton's back is scratched for helping Corning with funding or a trade issue that's beneficial for the US economy or workers, that's not the same thing as routing tax dollars for weapons the DoD doesn't want or a bridge to nowhere...
It's also wrong to assume that just because money is changing there's an under the table deal in play. Often the business interest who's working the hardest to educate the legislator will shape their opinion and certainly gain influence.
I'd note that as Sec State she helped other big US businesses beyond Corning.
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04-11-2016, 11:36 AM
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"I used to read her emails for hours and then garden". 
I'd be reading the emails and day trading.
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04-11-2016, 02:09 PM
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I'm sure she has multiple devices in the back of her sock drawer 
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04-11-2016, 03:19 PM
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I'm sure she has multiple devices in the back of her sock drawer
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I wonder if she keeps them in a cigar box
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