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07-24-2016, 07:21 AM
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Where does Melania's plagiarism rankand Paul manafort lying and trying to blame Hillary rank on your sliding scale?
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I suspect the bad behavior at the dem convention will quickly make everyone forget any blips at the rep conv......the disparate dem protest groups are preparing bags of urine and feces to hurl at each other throughout the week...we can only hope for 95 degree weather...."Welcome to the City of Brotherly Love"
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07-23-2016, 01:33 PM
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I was sort of surprised that the right was so dismissive of the plagiarism and outright lies. I guess back to what Obama's preacher said 10 years ago.
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07-23-2016, 02:04 PM
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I was sort of surprised that the right was so dismissive of the plagiarism and outright lies. I guess back to what Obama's preacher said 10 years ago.
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You didn't even listen to her speech who are you kidding , not that I will listen to Hillarys First Ladies speech either .
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07-23-2016, 04:22 PM
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I was sort of surprised that the right was so dismissive of the plagiarism and outright lies. I guess back to what Obama's preacher said 10 years ago.
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What outright lies?
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07-23-2016, 06:21 PM
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What outright lies?
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Melania saying that she wrote the speech herself. Paul manafort saying there was no plagiarism. Paul manafort blaming Hillary. The other thing that I find hilarious is that it was done by the wife of the candidate who has long tried to deligitmitize Michelle's husband. If they just came out with the story that ultimately came out you would still laugh at it but the story would be over. Instead they come up with a bunch of lies and attack attack
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07-23-2016, 08:10 PM
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Melania saying that she wrote the speech herself. Paul manafort saying there was no plagiarism. Paul manafort blaming Hillary. The other thing that I find hilarious is that it was done by the wife of the candidate who has long tried to deligitmitize Michelle's husband. If they just came out with the story that ultimately came out you would still laugh at it but the story would be over. Instead they come up with a bunch of lies and attack attack
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It was a #^&#^&#^&#^&show.
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07-23-2016, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It was a #^&#^&#^&#^&show.
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Compared to the well choreographed decision on Hillary being the Democratic nominee before the people even got to cast a vote.
https://gma.yahoo.com/video/leaked-d...232011026.html
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07-23-2016, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It was a #^&#^&#^&#^&show.
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Will the DNC use subtitles, a translator, or just leave a large amount of Americans in the dark?
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07-25-2016, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It was a #^&#^&#^&#^&show.
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Any chance you are watching the DNC (Democratic national convention)...pretty good so far..lol
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07-23-2016, 07:41 PM
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She said she wrote it WITH as little help as possible so that is not a lie.
Seeing as you didn't post any source I consider the rest of your post to just be your opinion or just propaganda.
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07-25-2016, 07:07 AM
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She said she wrote it WITH as little help as possible so that is not a lie. Well if that was not a lie they later lied and claimed a speechwriter wrote it. And since everyone and their brother agrees it was plagerism, then it sounds like you agree Melania is guilty.
Seeing as you didn't post any source I consider the rest of your post to just be your opinion or just propaganda.
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Propaganda -
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...michelle-obama
"In an interview with Matt Lauer of NBC, Melania Trump said of her speech: “I wrote it with a little help as possible.”
“There’s no cribbing of Michelle Obama’s speech,” Manafort told CNN, adding “there’s no feeling on her part that she did it.” Manafort suggested that she was simply using “words that are common words”.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...e-obama-225794
"There's no cribbing of Michelle Obama's speech. These are common words and values that she cares about her family, things like that,” Manafort said Tuesday morning when asked by CNN anchor Chris Cuomo about the plagiarism allegations. “I mean, she was speaking in front of 35 million people last night. She knew that. To think that she would be cribbing Michelle Obama's words is crazy. This is once again an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, how she seeks out to demean her and take her down. It's not going to work"
It is hilarious that the part about integrity, hard work and honesty where plagiarized.
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07-25-2016, 07:10 AM
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Propaganda -
It is hilarious that the part about integrity, hard work and honesty where plagiarized.
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nobody cares..."move along"
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07-25-2016, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Propaganda -
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...michelle-obama
"In an interview with Matt Lauer of NBC, Melania Trump said of her speech: “I wrote it with a little help as possible.”
“There’s no cribbing of Michelle Obama’s speech,” Manafort told CNN, adding “there’s no feeling on her part that she did it.” Manafort suggested that she was simply using “words that are common words”.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...e-obama-225794
"There's no cribbing of Michelle Obama's speech. These are common words and values that she cares about her family, things like that,” Manafort said Tuesday morning when asked by CNN anchor Chris Cuomo about the plagiarism allegations. “I mean, she was speaking in front of 35 million people last night. She knew that. To think that she would be cribbing Michelle Obama's words is crazy. This is once again an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, how she seeks out to demean her and take her down. It's not going to work"
It is hilarious that the part about integrity, hard work and honesty where plagiarized.
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Paul, you are saying that you are concerned with the moral compass of the presidential candidate's spouse? OK, shall we talk about Bill Clinton? Or will you admit the double standard?
Mrs Trump is likely a bubble brained, shallow, gold-digger.
Can you concede that Hilary's spouse isn't exactly anyone's idea of a pillar of morality?
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07-25-2016, 08:58 AM
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Paul, you are saying that you are concerned with the moral compass of the presidential candidate's spouse? OK, shall we talk about Bill Clinton? Or will you admit the double standard?
Mrs Trump is likely a bubble brained, shallow, gold-digger.
Can you concede that Hilary's spouse isn't exactly anyone's idea of a pillar of morality?
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No, I've said a couple times that I wasn't concerned with Melania. Frankly, I don't know why anyone cares about the spouse of candidate for the most part. I was more concerned with the lies that came out afterward and the attempt to blame someone (Hillary) who had absolutely nothing to do with the Plagarism.
I do think there are more important things to discuss - like what Rev. Wright said 10 years ago.
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07-25-2016, 09:11 AM
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No, I've said a couple times that I wasn't concerned with Melania. Frankly, I don't know why anyone cares about the spouse of candidate for the most part. I was more concerned with the lies that came out afterward and the attempt to blame someone (Hillary) who had absolutely nothing to do with the Plagarism.
I do think there are more important things to discuss - like what Rev. Wright said 10 years ago.
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I'm not as concerned with what Rev Wright said, as I am with the fact that Obama embraced that hateful bile. If Trump said that a white supremacist was his spiritual mentor, that wouldn't concern you? It would concern me.
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07-25-2016, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Propaganda -
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...michelle-obama
"In an interview with Matt Lauer of NBC, Melania Trump said of her speech: “I wrote it with a little help as possible.”
“There’s no cribbing of Michelle Obama’s speech,” Manafort told CNN, adding “there’s no feeling on her part that she did it.” Manafort suggested that she was simply using “words that are common words”.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...e-obama-225794
"There's no cribbing of Michelle Obama's speech. These are common words and values that she cares about her family, things like that,” Manafort said Tuesday morning when asked by CNN anchor Chris Cuomo about the plagiarism allegations. “I mean, she was speaking in front of 35 million people last night. She knew that. To think that she would be cribbing Michelle Obama's words is crazy. This is once again an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, how she seeks out to demean her and take her down. It's not going to work"
It is hilarious that the part about integrity, hard work and honesty where plagiarized.
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If it was the Democrats the speech writer would get a promotion just like Wasserman who was shown to be rigging the system against their own Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders.
Where are ALL THE outright lies since it seems you admit you were wrong about who wrote the speech?
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07-25-2016, 09:00 AM
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Where are ALL THE outright lies since it seems you admit you were wrong about who wrote the speech?
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Have you not followed anything? Why would I admit something that is incorrect. You seem to not have the least bit of knowledge of the story.
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07-25-2016, 10:28 AM
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Have you not followed anything? Why would I admit something that is incorrect. You seem to not have the least bit of knowledge of the story.
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Yes, I have followed it and don't see your supposed proof, sell that to the Democratic base.
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07-25-2016, 07:32 AM
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I agree, minor issue.
Let's talk about something really important like what Obama's priest said 10 years ago.
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07-25-2016, 09:40 AM
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Nothing that you wrote proved Pres. Obama "embraced that hateful bile".
So you support Trump's racist views?
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07-25-2016, 09:55 AM
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Nothing that you wrote proved Pres. Obama "embraced that hateful bile".
So you support Trump's racist views?
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Right, Paul. Sure. Barack was offended by all that stuff. That's what he went to the church every Sunday for 20 years, and formed an obviously deep, close relationship with the man. You have to believe that Obama (despite how stingy his VP is) gave at least some money to that collection basket.
I don't like any of the idiotic things Trump says. Here's the difference between me and you, and between me and Spence. I can admit the true flaws with my party's nominee. You can't.
If Trump said that the folks at the Westboro Baptist Church were his spiritual advisors, you bet I'd come out against that. No one expects that kind of intellectual honesty from the left.
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07-25-2016, 10:34 AM
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Right, Paul. Sure. Barack was offended by all that stuff. That's what he went to the church every Sunday for 20 years, and formed an obviously deep, close relationship with the man. You have to believe that Obama (despite how stingy his VP is) gave at least some money to that collection basket.
I don't like any of the idiotic things Trump says. Here's the difference between me and you, and between me and Spence. I can admit the true flaws with my party's nominee. You can't.
If Trump said that the folks at the Westboro Baptist Church were his spiritual advisors, you bet I'd come out against that. No one expects that kind of intellectual honesty from the left.
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So do you support Trump's racist view or not? Seems like you ignored that question.
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07-25-2016, 11:09 AM
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So do you support Trump's racist view or not? Seems like you ignored that question.
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Where is your evidence that he has racist views ? I don't think he's a racist at all , I think you might be though
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07-25-2016, 11:25 AM
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Where is your evidence that he has racist views ? I don't think he's a racist at all , I think you might be though
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Classy
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07-25-2016, 11:12 AM
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So do you support Trump's racist view or not? Seems like you ignored that question.
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I said I don't like any of the idiotic things he says. That would include anything racist.
Now, why would one go to a church for 20 years, if they didn't buy into the pastor's message? If Wright claims white people are bad, and the congregation chuckles (as you said), and then comes back the following week, that's OK with you? The proper response to that kind of racist hate, is laughter? Is that what you think? Because that's what you said.
A person of integrity would walk out and not go back.
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07-25-2016, 11:27 AM
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I said I don't like any of the idiotic things he says. That would include anything racist.
Now, why would one go to a church for 20 years, if they didn't buy into the pastor's message? If Wright claims white people are bad, and the congregation chuckles (as you said), and then comes back the following week, that's OK with you? The proper response to that kind of racist hate, is laughter? Is that what you think? Because that's what you said.
A person of integrity would walk out and not go back.
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So you can support someone bc of some of his beliefs/actions and dislike others but won't understand someone doing the same.
I got it now. Thanks
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07-25-2016, 10:37 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/20/politi...-organization/
The Clinton camp who Hillary leads was the first to get the story out. I suppose Hillary played no part in the smear campaign against the other Democratic candidate in your opinion.
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07-25-2016, 10:49 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/20/politi...-organization/
The Clinton camp who Hillary leads was the first to get the story out. I suppose Hillary played no part in the smear campaign against the other Democratic candidate in your opinion.
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You need to read things a little slower so you can understand them a little better. The first person to get it out was a guy who tweeted it. I'll even post a link to help you understand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...oped-everyone/
Paul Manafort blamed Hillary - she had nothing to do with it.
At least you now seem to understand about the lies.
Edit- Even your own link showed that the first to figure out Melania plagarized was someone not associated w/the campaign. Didn't you even read your own link?
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07-25-2016, 11:25 AM
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You need to read things a little slower so you can understand them a little better. The first person to get it out was a guy who tweeted it. I'll even post a link to help you understand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...oped-everyone/
Paul Manafort blamed Hillary - she had nothing to do with it.
At least you now seem to understand about the lies.
Edit- Even your own link showed that the first to figure out Melania plagarized was someone not associated w/the campaign. Didn't you even read your own link?
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Which link? If I wasn't so busy looking up your facts I may have caught that, where is it again?
Did the person get identified before or after Manafort made the comment about the Hilary CAMP pushing the issue.
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07-25-2016, 11:41 AM
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Did the person get identified before or after Manafort made the comment about the Hilary CAMP pushing the issue.
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IF the person who broke the story hadn't yet broken the story, how would Paul Manafort have know to make the comment?
And Hillary's camp did not push the issue.
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