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Jim in CT · 03-06-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch

You might also note that the personal ethics that most complain about occurred before he became President. His past actions should not be used to accuse him of besmirching his present office. Nor, if his past actions have not been continued in his role of POTUS, should they be considered the "means" he uses to get things done as President.

Agreed.

This all boils down to, he beat them. he beat them at their own game - fighting dirty, lying, smearing, and insulting his opponents. He beat them at their own game, he pulverized them at their own game, by winning the election. Then to top it all off, he's making things better by many rational standards (not debt, not by refusing to build a wall for 2 years, not by praising Kim Jong Un or whatever his name is). He made them look stupid, and continues to make them look stupid.

Larry Summers was Obama's top economic advisor (I think?), he said 3% growth was as realistic as the tooth fairy, then bam, Trump did it.

Do you see Summers on TV, admitting Trump was right and he was wrong? Nope. Because they aren't capable of that kind of honesty. Trump did what Summers said was impossible.

wdmso · 03-06-2019, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Agreed.

This all boils down to, he beat them. he beat them at their own game - fighting dirty, lying, smearing, and insulting his opponents. He beat them at their own game, he pulverized them at their own game, by winning the election. Then to top it all off, he's making things better by many rational standards (not debt, not by refusing to build a wall for 2 years, not by praising Kim Jong Un or whatever his name is). He made them look stupid, and continues to make them look stupid.

Larry Summers was Obama's top economic advisor (I think?), he said 3% growth was as realistic as the tooth fairy, then bam, Trump did it.

Do you see Summers on TV, admitting Trump was right and he was wrong? Nope. Because they aren't capable of that kind of honesty. Trump did what Summers said was impossible.

This all boils down to, he beat them

Again this shows how in love you are with Trump and how deep your denial runs and a typical response from the faithful ... wilfully ignoring the real reason it's happening ... all the convictions and the investigations it's called breaking the law and Trump hired them and he's responsible for their behavior ... that's what leadership is about

Because they aren't capable of that kind of honesty.

The Minute you and your Conservative pals Demand the same kind of honesty from the POTUS you really have zero credibility in the honesty department

scottw · 03-06-2019, 04:50 PM

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The Minute you and your Conservative pals Demand the same kind of honesty from the POTUS you really have zero credibility in the honesty department

do you demand honesty from democrats?

wdmso · 03-06-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw

do you demand honesty from democrats?

I demand it from any sitting POTUS unlike many here
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Sea Dangles · 03-06-2019, 07:09 PM

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I demand it from any sitting POTUS unlike many here
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But not from anybody else in government? Senators can lie. Governors can lie. Presidential hopefuls can lie. Presidents can jam cigars in vaginas and lie about it. But Trump,a guy who has spent his life lying long before he knew how to spell politics, this gives you a purpose to suddenly condemn lying. Hahaha...the morality police have spoken. Snowflake style
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scottw · 03-07-2019, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

I demand it from any sitting POTUS unlike many here
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I'm rooting for impeachment as much as and probably more than you

detbuch · 03-06-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

This all boils down to, he beat them

Again this shows how in love you are with Trump and how deep your denial runs and a typical response from the faithful ... wilfully ignoring the real reason it's happening ... all the convictions and the investigations it's called breaking the law and Trump hired them and he's responsible for their behavior ... that's what leadership is about

You're saying that the booming economy is due to Trump hiring a criminal lawyer that had nothing to do with the economy? Or due to Flynn being needlessly maneuvered into a perjury trap? Or due to several Russians who are not connected to Trump being indicted (but not convicted nor will they be) for election tampering? Please explain the connection.

Because they aren't capable of that kind of honesty.

The Minute you and your Conservative pals Demand the same kind of honesty from the POTUS you really have zero credibility in the honesty department

So, if you believe that the President is dishonest, you should be dishonest?

wdmso · 03-07-2019, 07:54 AM

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So, if you believe that the President is dishonest, you should be dishonest?

I know Trump is dishonest (it’s well documented)

The only way I would also be dishonest. Is if I thought like you and many of his faithful . And
think he is not dishonest . And it’s all a lie to discredit him .. in light of all the his documented lies
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detbuch · 03-07-2019, 09:41 AM

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The only way I would also be dishonest. Is if I thought like you and many of his faithful . And
think he is not dishonest .

You're dishonest--I have not said that he is always honest. I think that you and many of the anti-Trump faithful exaggerate or deliberately misinterpret a lot his comments in ways that portray them as lies. I'm sure, however, that he is not always honest--like most politicians, and most humans, including you.

wdmso · 03-07-2019, 10:47 AM

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You're dishonest--I have not said that he is always honest. I think that you and many of the anti-Trump faithful exaggerate or deliberately misinterpret a lot his comments in ways that portray them as lies. I'm sure, however, that he is not always honest--like most politicians, and most humans, including you.

Typical conservative response when it comes to Trump or any other bad behavior

EVERYONE does it ... and that makes it ok

And please enlightenment on my Dishonesty

exaggerate or deliberately misinterpret a lot his comments in ways that portray them as lies.

In my world a lie is determined by Facts ...

exaggerate or deliberately misinterpret comments... Is what Trumps does daily and why he lies so much ...

and how do you portray a lie .. when the facts clearly show it to be not Truthful .... it's an amazing skill for trump supporters

scottw · 03-07-2019, 11:00 AM

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Typical conservative response when it comes to Trump or any other bad behavior

EVERYONE does it ... and that makes it ok

actually got that from Eben and the democrats....

detbuch · 03-07-2019, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

please enlightenment on my Dishonesty

I did.

Sea Dangles · 03-07-2019, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

I know Trump is dishonest (it’s well documented)

The only way I would also be dishonest. Is if I thought like you and many of his faithful . And
think he is not dishonest . And it’s all a lie to discredit him .. in light of all the his documented lies
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Just point out one documented instance when you have held your own party (D) accountable to the same standards you expect from Trump. Otherwise ,you are dishonest.
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