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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i can criticize my side. you can’t. not once, not ever. So tell me who the radical is.

I believe Biden won in 2020. That doesn’t mean i can’t believe the GOP has better policy ideas on crime, the economy, the border, all of which are a hot mess right now after 18 months of liberal control.

You refuse to co cede there are extremists on the left, yet you can’t name a single policy on which you think the left is wrong, and your every post bashed the right and praises the left. Not “most” of your posts. All of them.

How are you not a radical extremist? how would you argue that you’re not a radical extremist ideologue?

Again get back to me when the Democratic Party try’s to overthrow a National election.. steal election machine data passing laws to restricting voting based on the lie of voter fraud

Oh wait you already think that has happened .. once again proving you don’t live in reality

Yes Jim there are like 4 members of the Democratic Party who I would consider extremist and have no power

The problem with your logic is the majority or Republicans are extremist…. And once again you are trying to suggest both are somehow the same and you’re willing to vote for there seditious leader

It’s like voting for a child Molester . Because they have better policy's on crime economy and the border..

I’d still take a guy who ask for a dead lady over a party that supports seditious behavior


Here’s a shocker that you would carry this talking point

There was no question that come fall, Republicans would go to the same sort of playbook that they’d been using for the last 25 years, which is trying to scare voters into the Republican column by blaming Democrats for crime, Crime has been a go-to Republican issue since at least the 1968

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Republicans would go to the same sort of playbook that they’d been using for the last 25 years, which is trying to scare voters into the Republican column by blaming Democrats for crime,

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democraps never try to scare voters into the democrap column.....

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

It’s like voting for a child Molester . Because they have better policy's on crime economy and the border..

Does sniffing them count?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Again get back to me when the Democratic Party try’s to overthrow a National election.. steal election machine data passing laws to restricting voting based on the lie of voter fraud

Oh wait you already think that has happened .. once again proving you don’t live in reality

Yes Jim there are like 4 members of the Democratic Party who I would consider extremist and have no power

The problem with your logic is the majority or Republicans are extremist…. And once again you are trying to suggest both are somehow the same and you’re willing to vote for there seditious leader

It’s like voting for a child Molester . Because they have better policy's on crime economy and the border..

I’d still take a guy who ask for a dead lady over a party that supports seditious behavior


Here’s a shocker that you would carry this talking point

There was no question that come fall, Republicans would go to the same sort of playbook that they’d been using for the last 25 years, which is trying to scare voters into the Republican column by blaming Democrats for crime, Crime has been a go-to Republican issue since at least the 1968

"Again get back to me when the Democratic Party try’s to overthrow a National election"

Again, in 2016, a small number of congressional democrats tried to do exactly that. That's exactly, precisely what they tried to do.

And I'm sorry, but you painted all republicans as kooks and all liberals as saints long before January 6th.

"The problem with your logic is the majority or Republicans are extremist…."

Says you...and Joy Behar. Sorry, that's not evidence. Even Trump isn't an extremist (not on policy), he advocated successfully for criminal justice reform and that's a liberal policy, not a conservative policy. Marjorie Taylor Green is an extremist and a kook.

On the left, the squad are mirror images of Marjorie Taylor Greene and they have a lot of influence.

"Republicans would go to the same sort of playbook that they’d been using for the last 25 years, which is trying to scare voters into the Republican column by blaming Democrats for crime, Crime has been a go-to Republican issue since at least the 1968"

Sorry, the democrats control the show and crime is way up, the economy is in a recession by the typical definition, and the border is a catastrophe.

Here's the shocker, you give democrats credit for all that's good and don't blame them for anything that's wrong.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Again get back to me when the Democratic Party try’s to overthrow a National election"

Again, in 2016, a small number of congressional democrats tried to do exactly that. That's exactly, precisely what they tried to do.

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How exactly did they try to overthrow a national election?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How exactly did they try to overthrow a national election?

You tell me, please, exactly what's wrong with the following response...

Trump won in 2016. As a result of their loss, a small number of congressional democrats tried to throw out the election results in a few states which Trump won, when there was no evidence any cheating took place in those states. Their effort failed, it was a flop. But they tried. Democrats in the house of representatives tried to overturn an election, for the sole reason that they didn't win.

It failed obviously. But that's what they tried to do. Biden, to his credit, told them at the time to knock it off. They proceeded with their attempt, and couldn't get NEARLY enough democrats to go along with them.

Some of them are still in Congress.

That's what happened. Just because Wayne hates it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And as well-informed as you are, I have to say I find it hard to believe that you aren't aware this happened.

And then influential democrats were taking full page ads out in the New York Times begging electors not to vote for Trump. Those weren't elected democrats, just crybabies among the general population.

From the following link: "Jackson Lee and her allies argued that widespread voter suppression in states won by Trump tarnished the results. "

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...allenge-233294

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You tell me, please, exactly what's wrong with the following response...

Trump won in 2016. As a result of their loss, a small number of congressional democrats tried to throw out the election results in a few states which Trump won, when there was no evidence any cheating took place in those states. Their effort failed, it was a flop. But they tried. Democrats in the house of representatives tried to overturn an election, for the sole reason that they didn't win.

I'm asking a simple question. How did they try to "overthrow a national election"?

o·ver·throw
[overthrow]
VERB
remove forcibly from power:
"military coups which had attempted to overthrow the King"
synonyms:
remove (from office/power) · bring down · bring about the downfall of · topple · bring low · undo · depose · oust · displace · supplant · unseat · subvert · dethrone · disestablish · dissolve · put an end to · defeat · conquer · break up · annihilate

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Again get back to me when the Democratic Party try’s to overthrow a National election..

You may want to make sure Wayne reads this definition too....

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm asking a simple question. How did they try to "overthrow a national election"?

o·ver·throw
[overthrow]
VERB
remove forcibly from power:
"military coups which had attempted to overthrow the King"
synonyms:
remove (from office/power) · bring down · bring about the downfall of · topple · bring low · undo · depose · oust · displace · supplant · unseat · subvert · dethrone · disestablish · dissolve · put an end to · defeat · conquer · break up · annihilate

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm asking a simple question. How did they try to "overthrow a national election"?

o·ver·throw
[overthrow]
VERB
remove forcibly from power:
"military coups which had attempted to overthrow the King"
synonyms:
remove (from office/power) · bring down · bring about the downfall of · topple · bring low · undo · depose · oust · displace · supplant · unseat · subvert · dethrone · disestablish · dissolve · put an end to · defeat · conquer · break up · annihilate

I responded exactly on point. Trump won in 2016, and a small number of congressional democrats attempted to "bring about his downfall", to "dethrone" him, to "undo" his win, to "oust" him, to "supplant" him with someone else, to "subvert" the results of a fair election.

Trump won in 2016. They tried to un-do his win. They had zero constitutional basis to do do, they just hated that they lost. Is that true, or is that false?

Why is it OK when democrats do it?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I responded exactly on point. Trump won in 2016, and a small number of congressional democrats attempted to "bring about his downfall", to "dethrone" him, to "undo" his win, to "oust" him, to "supplant" him with someone else, to "subvert" the results of a fair election.

Trump won in 2016. They tried to un-do his win. They had zero constitutional basis to do do, they just hated that they lost. Is that true, or is that false?

Why is it OK when democrats do it?

How did they attempt to dethrone him or bring about his downfall? By going to court or saying something?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How exactly did they try to overthrow a national election?

NEWSWEEK TOP 5 US Rigged Elections

The Wall Street Journal first reported that Gore's team "has been checking into the background of Republican electors with an eye toward persuading a handful of them to vote for Mr. Gore."

Beckel insisted afterward he never had plans to try to blackmail electors to collect Gore votes, which he thought the article implied. But in an interview on Fox News on November 17, 2000, Beckel said: "I'm trying to kidnap electors. Whatever it takes." Beckel later explained what the Founders wanted: "The idea was that electors, early on, were to be lobbied."

Pro-Gore websites even started popping up, listing the names and contact information of Republican electors across the country, asking the public to barrage them with demands to vote for Gore and follow the will of the people.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

NEWSWEEK TOP 5 US Rigged Elections

The Wall Street Journal first reported that Gore's team "has been checking into the background of Republican electors with an eye toward persuading a handful of them to vote for Mr. Gore."

Beckel insisted afterward he never had plans to try to blackmail electors to collect Gore votes, which he thought the article implied. But in an interview on Fox News on November 17, 2000, Beckel said: "I'm trying to kidnap electors. Whatever it takes." Beckel later explained what the Founders wanted: "The idea was that electors, early on, were to be lobbied."

Pro-Gore websites even started popping up, listing the names and contact information of Republican electors across the country, asking the public to barrage them with demands to vote for Gore and follow the will of the people.

It's OK when they do it Scott.

Nobody likes losing, and I hate it as much as anyone. But every single politically-motivated riot from the last 50 years was waged by democrats until January 6th, so I don't like getting lectured about civility from the folks that burned cities down in the summer of 2020 which was infinitely more deadly and destructive than January 6th.