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09-16-2020, 10:19 AM
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Trump’s entire political career has been built on using fear as a weapon. As he explained to Woodward and a colleague in a 2016 interview, “Real power is—I don’t even want to use the word—fear.”
Leaders excell in tough times, Tweety tried to lie and deny his way through this, the first real crisis of his administration as he has his whole life
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You and Biden and Harris and the Dems use fear as as weapon. Trump told the truth about the virus to Woodward. And he told the same truth publicly shortly afterward in response to a reporter's question during a press briefing.
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09-16-2020, 10:51 AM
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Sorry one statement that you think fits the narrative is too little, there’s video and tapes that show otherwise.
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09-16-2020, 02:28 PM
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Sorry one statement that you think fits the narrative is too little, there’s video and tapes that show otherwise.
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The statement to Woodward and repeated in essence to the reporter in a public press briefing covers the videos and tapes. And you and Biden and Harris and the Dems use fear as as weapon.
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09-16-2020, 02:56 PM
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So “in essence” is your interpretation of Tweety’s speech because he did not say the same thing
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09-16-2020, 05:28 PM
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So “in essence” is your interpretation of Tweety’s speech because he did not say the same thing
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If by his "speech" you mean what he replied to the reporter who asked him about his downplaying of the virus, he did say the same thing that he said to Woodward, but mostly, not exactly, the same words. Otherwise, I don't know what you mean by his "speech."
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09-16-2020, 03:00 PM
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And tell me just how did this silver spoon, reality TV star, real estate grifter from Queens become the voice of the Republican party?
Because far from ushering in Bolshevism, the Obama-Biden administration presided over the longest economic expansion on record and falling violent crime.
This year, by contrast, Trump admin has seen the worst recession since the 1930s and a rising murder rate.
But he takes no responsibility at all
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09-16-2020, 03:31 PM
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Another Trump supporter out the door, I think Caputo blew a gasket, but when you work in this administration your time is numbered.
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09-16-2020, 05:15 PM
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Another Trump supporter out the door, I think Caputo blew a gasket, but when you work in this administration your time is numbered.
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Caputo was there to heroically battle the army of Deep State scientists trying to destroy Trump with their enslavement guidance and nuclear vaccine negativity. Now Trump will have to defeat them on his own.
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09-16-2020, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
And tell me just how did this silver spoon, reality TV star, real estate grifter from Queens become the voice of the Republican party?
Because far from ushering in Bolshevism, the Obama-Biden administration presided over the longest economic expansion on record and falling violent crime.
This year, by contrast, Trump admin has seen the worst recession since the 1930s and a rising murder rate.
But he takes no responsibility at all
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This is incorrigible bull$hit. It's what you do. Keep repeating junk.
Here is a Wikipedia synopsis of Obama's fabulous economic expansion:
"The effects of the Great Recession of 2007-2009 continued to be felt for years, with the economy described as a "malaise" as late as 2011. Employment growth remained historically low, and unemployment would not return to pre-recession levels until 2016. Long-term unemployment rose to a record high while labor force participation fell off sharply as many of the unemployed gave up looking for work. In an effort to spur economic growth, the Federal Reserve engaged in three rounds of quantitative easing, while the federal funds rate was kept near zero for an unprecedented seven years. However, credit remained difficult to obtain for some time, as lending institutions used the newly created cash to shore up their balance sheets. What growth occurred was unevenly distributed; roughly half of GDP growth from 2009-2015 went to the top 1% of households.[ Unlike every previous post-war expansion, GDP growth remained under 3% for every calendar year."
As one "expert" put it: "On almost every measure examined, the 2009-2015 recovery since the recession ended in June of 2009 has been the meekest in more than 50 years."
From a Washington Examiner Jan. 20, 2020 article: "President Trump starts off 2020 having presided over a lower average unemployment rate than any president at a comparable point in office in recorded history.
On Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the unemployment rate held steady at a historically low 3.5% in December. Since February 2017, Trump's first full month in office, the monthly unemployment rate has averaged 3.9%. No prior president has averaged less than 4% over the first 35 months of his presidency. The closest was Dwight Eisenhower, when the rate averaged 4.3% between February 1953 and December 1955."
Since covid, The WORLD, not just the U.S. "has seen the worst recession since the 1930s." And the murder rate has risen with the help of Progressive cities like NY pulling back on police presence and effectiveness.
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09-16-2020, 07:36 PM
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This is incorrigible bull$hit. It's what you do. Keep repeating junk.
Here is a Wikipedia synopsis of Obama's fabulous economic expansion:
"The effects of the Great Recession of 2007-2009 continued to be felt for years, with the economy described as a "malaise" as late as 2011. Employment growth remained historically low, and unemployment would not return to pre-recession levels until 2016. Long-term unemployment rose to a record high while labor force participation fell off sharply as many of the unemployed gave up looking for work. In an effort to spur economic growth, the Federal Reserve engaged in three rounds of quantitative easing, while the federal funds rate was kept near zero for an unprecedented seven years. However, credit remained difficult to obtain for some time, as lending institutions used the newly created cash to shore up their balance sheets. What growth occurred was unevenly distributed; roughly half of GDP growth from 2009-2015 went to the top 1% of households.[ Unlike every previous post-war expansion, GDP growth remained under 3% for every calendar year."
As one "expert" put it: "On almost every measure examined, the 2009-2015 recovery since the recession ended in June of 2009 has been the meekest in more than 50 years."
From a Washington Examiner Jan. 20, 2020 article: "President Trump starts off 2020 having presided over a lower average unemployment rate than any president at a comparable point in office in recorded history.
On Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the unemployment rate held steady at a historically low 3.5% in December. Since February 2017, Trump's first full month in office, the monthly unemployment rate has averaged 3.9%. No prior president has averaged less than 4% over the first 35 months of his presidency. The closest was Dwight Eisenhower, when the rate averaged 4.3% between February 1953 and December 1955."
Since covid, The WORLD, not just the U.S. "has seen the worst recession since the 1930s." And the murder rate has risen with the help of Progressive cities like NY pulling back on police presence and effectiveness.
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Keep dreaming meanwhile Tweety is saying
The deaths in the blue states don’t count and that’s probably the sickest and most honest belief I’ve heard Trump express.
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09-16-2020, 07:52 PM
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Keep dreaming meanwhile Tweety is saying
The deaths in the blue states don’t count and that’s probably the sickest and most honest belief I’ve heard Trump express.
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I wasn't dreaming. I quoted Wikipedia and Washington Examiner articles.
Trump didn't say blue state deaths don't count. He said if they weren't counted the death toll would be lower. Which is true. It would also be true that if red state deaths weren't counted, the death toll would be lower. Kind of a dumb thing to say, but playing politics results in a lot of dumb things being said--for example, a lot of the dumb things the master of playing politics, Biden, says.
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09-16-2020, 05:36 PM
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Boy if there was ever a question of whether Barr was Trumps personal attorney and hit man, boy he answered that in spades. Sad that we have the AG basically working for the Trump re-election campaign. The corruption of this administration runs deep, can’t wait to vote his arse out and his cronies too.
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09-16-2020, 06:20 PM
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Now trump knows more than cdc. And said we would have less cases in the world if it wasnt for Blue states... leadership at its finest
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09-16-2020, 08:02 PM
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He just had an indoor rally without social distancing except for himself. Why keep pretending he’s engaged with the safety of the American people? At all.
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09-16-2020, 08:20 PM
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He just had an indoor rally without social distancing except for himself. Why keep pretending he’s engaged with the safety of the American people? At all.
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Maybe he doesn't think the American people are lemmings. That being American supposes that you think for yourself. The information about social distancing and masks has been pounded into our heads on a daily basis. Anyone who is ignorant of that info must have just awoken and come out of their caves. I wouldn't go to one of those rallies for various reasons including covid. Watching one on YouTube is more than enough.
We have witnessed time and again large groups of "mostly peaceful" protesters not practicing social distancing, but still get lauded and encouraged by the left. Goose, gander.
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09-16-2020, 08:12 PM
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Tonight Tweety claimed a Covid-19 vaccine could be ready for distribution as early as mid-October — hours after the head of the CDC testified it likely wouldn't be ready until the end of the year.
Somebody’s full of false hope and unknowing optimism.
Pretty likely it’s the “cheerleader”
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09-17-2020, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Tonight Tweety claimed a Covid-19 vaccine could be ready for distribution as early as mid-October — hours after the head of the CDC testified it likely wouldn't be ready until the end of the year.
Somebody’s full of false hope and unknowing optimism.
Pretty likely it’s the “cheerleader”
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It’s just more of the same Trump’s version of reality ALWAYS is for personal or political gain, I doubt anyone with a brain can’t see why he contradicts all the medical experts since day one and NO it’s not to calm Americans.
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09-16-2020, 09:17 PM
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Only one person at those rallies socially distanced himself and made sure everyone in close contact with him was tested.
It’s right up there with "If you take the blue states out" that will be remembered as one of the most callous sentiments ever uttered by an American president.... if it's remembered at all.
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09-16-2020, 09:20 PM
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Just wait for Trump's new Healthcare Plan, "You're on your own."
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09-17-2020, 09:10 AM
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There is only bluster and BS
There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot who thinks he’s the “Chosen One”, claiming it will all get better and he alone can fix it.
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09-17-2020, 10:50 AM
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There is only bluster and BS
There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot who thinks he’s the “Chosen One”, claiming it will all get better and he alone can fix it.
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It's far worse than that, for the most part he denies any of these are really even serious issues.
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09-17-2020, 02:57 PM
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There is only bluster and BS
There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot who thinks he’s the “Chosen One”, claiming it will all get better and he alone can fix it.
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Plan, plan, everywhere a plan
Blocking out my freedom, breaking my mind.
So I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little plan
I said, "Thank you, Lord, for thinkin' 'bout me. I'm alive and doin' fine."
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09-17-2020, 11:19 AM
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Didn’t want to panic anyone
The USPS had a plan to send 5 reusable facemarks to every household in early April. Even had a press release ready.
The White House blocked the plan.
“There was concern...that households receiving masks might create concern or panic."
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09-17-2020, 06:18 PM
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facemarks
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wtf is a facemark?
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09-17-2020, 07:25 PM
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wtf is a facemark?
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Hmm, not capable of figuring anything out unless you’re told exactly?
Hope someone feeds you so you don’t starve
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09-18-2020, 06:37 AM
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During a worldwide health pandemic does it not bother you Trump supporters he is bypassing the CDC to control a politically driven narrative? It’s bad enough he has been lying from the start when he knew how severe this was likely to be and now he is preventing the CDC from reviewing their own press releases. It is so irresponsible and frankly dangerous to erode any trust in any future vaccine, to contradict ALL the medical experts on the timeline for a safe rollout of the vaccine to the general public. Gee wiz what is the word I’m looking for where a leader on this globe controls the state news the citizens can see, the only difference is Trump hasn’t quite got control of the free news outlets but given time he will try.
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09-18-2020, 07:33 AM
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During a worldwide health pandemic does it not bother you Trump supporters he is bypassing the CDC to control a politically driven narrative? It’s bad enough he has been lying from the start when he knew how severe this was likely to be and now he is preventing the CDC from reviewing their own press releases. It is so irresponsible and frankly dangerous to erode any trust in any future vaccine, to contradict ALL the medical experts on the timeline for a safe rollout of the vaccine to the general public. Gee wiz what is the word I’m looking for where a leader on this globe controls the state news the citizens can see, the only difference is Trump hasn’t quite got control of the free news outlets but given time he will try.
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are you drunk?
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09-18-2020, 07:51 AM
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are you drunk?
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Don’t like the red cool aid like you, clouds your mind, numbs your thinking and blinds you to what’s happening
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09-18-2020, 08:01 AM
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Don’t like the red cool aid like you, clouds your mind, numbs your thinking and blinds you to what’s happening
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it was a simple question....
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09-18-2020, 08:16 AM
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it was a simple question....
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He said cool aid, we were supposed to drink
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