the Trump Phenomenon

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I agree
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

I think if you get a breakdown of all the freebies this government gives out you would find that most of it goes to the military-industrial complex and of course banks that are too big to fail, etc. but the freebies but you were talking about also align with what I was talking about and that is progress or at some call it progressive thinking. We just spent over $1 trillion on an airplane that barely works that money could've gone to educating people or healthcare for everybody. I would much rather see my tax dollars going to help someone in need and then some ridiculous government military boondoggle.

Your way, way off on how the Federal Government spends ( I assume you meant Federal not State spending).

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...g-internet-mi/

And if you add State spending to ''government" spending, you're even more wrong. State's spend 9 times more on education than the Federal government does. So just on education alone, we spend about as much on education as we do on military. And when we add the rest of State spending, the amount spent on non-military grows even more than the amount on the Federal pie chart.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your way, way off on how the Federal Government spends ( I assume you meant Federal not State spending).

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...g-internet-mi/

And if you add State spending to ''government" spending, you're even more wrong. State's spend 9 times on education than the Federal government does. So just on education alone, we spend about as much on education as we do on military. And when we add the rest of State spending, the amount spent on non-military grows even more than the amount on the Federal pie chart.

You forgot his mention of big banks. I think the working assumption that the Government will bail out the big guys if the fan hits has to lower their borrowing costs. How many billions in taxpayer subsidies is this equivalent to?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

You forgot his mention of big banks. I think the working assumption that the Government will bail out the big guys if the fan hits has to lower their borrowing costs. How many billions in taxpayer subsidies is this equivalent to?

I thought It was the evil "conservatives" and libertarians who opposed bailing out the big banks. Wasn't it a progressive idea to bail them out? Aren't big banks in cahoots with big government a progressive idea? And wasn't that supposed to be good for the economy, therefor good for the people that Nebe wants the money to go to?

Anyway, if the military is not good for the protection of the people that Nebe wants to get the money, what's it good for?

And, again, for progressives and so-called "liberals," government means the Federal Government. The States spend almost all their money for the "good" of the people. But that never seems to add to the equation that progressives consider when they complain how the "government" distributes money. Of course, for progressives, States are an unnecessary nuisance. It would be so much simpler and more efficient if they were eliminated as governmental agencies and all was left to one central government.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Of course, for progressives, States are an unnecessary nuisance. It would be so much simpler and more efficient if they were eliminated as governmental agencies and all was left to one central government.

Yes,they would love to see the end of home rule where individual citizens can
speak their minds and participate in the government.
They love the sheeple mentality rather then think for themselves.

[JohnR]

Small Government -v- Big Government is not all Federal either. More conservative people think the states should have bigger responsibility and the Federal gov less, Progressives think the Federal Government needs more control.

Control -v- Liberty, sliding scale

The moderate middle is lacking leadership.