the party that cares about blacks, threw eggs at Larry Elder

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Careful, the data exists
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Facts and data are no concern of conservatives

But lies and conspiracy then you have their attention
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Facts and data are no concern of conservatives


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this is definitely true

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Facts and data are no concern of conservatives


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Originally Posted by scottw

this is definitely true

A little of the typical troll method: creative editing

Covid past seven days

Mississippi
Deaths per 100,000: 1.8
Daily average deaths: 53.7

Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 1.52
Daily average deaths: 325.4

Louisiana
Deaths per 100,000: 1.42
Daily average deaths: 66

Arkansas
Deaths per 100,000: 1.07
Daily average deaths: 32.3

South Carolina
Deaths per 100,000: 1.05
Daily average deaths: 53.9

Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.99
Daily average deaths: 286

Wyoming
Deaths per 100,000: 0.96
Daily average deaths: 5.6

West Virginia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.88
Daily average deaths: 15.7

Alabama
Deaths per 100,000: 0.87
Daily average deaths: 42.6

Georgia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.87
Daily average deaths: 93.1

Tennessee
Deaths per 100,000: 0.85
Daily average deaths: 58.3

Idaho
Deaths per 100,000: 0.77
Daily average deaths: 13.7

Missouri
Deaths per 100,000: 0.75
Daily average deaths: 45.9

Oklahoma
Deaths per 100,000: 0.75
Daily average deaths: 29.6

Nevada
Deaths per 100,000: 0.74
Daily average deaths: 22.7

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

A little of the typical troll method: creative editing

Covid past seven days



Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 1.52
Daily average deaths: 325.4

past 7 days?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

A little of the typical troll method: creative editing

Covid past seven days

Mississippi
Deaths per 100,000: 1.8
Daily average deaths: 53.7

Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 1.52
Daily average deaths: 325.4

Louisiana
Deaths per 100,000: 1.42
Daily average deaths: 66

Arkansas
Deaths per 100,000: 1.07
Daily average deaths: 32.3

South Carolina
Deaths per 100,000: 1.05
Daily average deaths: 53.9

Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.99
Daily average deaths: 286

Wyoming
Deaths per 100,000: 0.96
Daily average deaths: 5.6

West Virginia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.88
Daily average deaths: 15.7

Alabama
Deaths per 100,000: 0.87
Daily average deaths: 42.6

Georgia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.87
Daily average deaths: 93.1

Tennessee
Deaths per 100,000: 0.85
Daily average deaths: 58.3

Idaho
Deaths per 100,000: 0.77
Daily average deaths: 13.7

Missouri
Deaths per 100,000: 0.75
Daily average deaths: 45.9

Oklahoma
Deaths per 100,000: 0.75
Daily average deaths: 29.6

Nevada
Deaths per 100,000: 0.74
Daily average deaths: 22.7

simple question. what’s more important, deaths in the last 7 days, or deaths since the beginning?

Who makes the baseball playoffs, the team with the best record in September? Or the team with the best record for the whole season?

Your brain just doesn’t work right.

Florida is having an awful
time lately. Their total
numbers are still
way better than CT, MA, and NY, which we were told
was led by the messiah himself, the “gold standard” according to biden.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

simple question. what’s more important, deaths in the last 7 days, or deaths since the beginning?

Who makes the baseball playoffs, the team with the best record in September? Or the team with the best record for the whole season?

Your brain just doesn’t work right.

Florida is having an awful
time lately. Their total
numbers are still
way better than CT, MA, and NY, which we were told
was led by the messiah himself, the “gold standard” according to biden.
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You seem to believe that learning from experience is unimportant and that because the states with early outbreaks, when we had little experience dealing with COVID, that did things to reduce exposure so that they are not now dealing with the surges that the leaders in current COVID are is bad.
You could to move to Floriduh, maybe you could keep it from turning blue.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You seem to believe that learning from experience is unimportant and that because the states with early outbreaks, when we had little experience dealing with COVID, that did things to reduce exposure so that they are not now dealing with the surges that the leaders in current COVID are is bad.
You could to move to Floriduh, maybe you could keep it from turning blue.
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i did not say the data from last week is unimportant. I said it’s not nearly as important as total
death rates.

You are the one saying total death rates are unimportant.

Of course, you completely ignore that part of NYs awful numbers are because the governor ( who everyone in the left said was doing a great job) forced nursing homes to admit people with a disease we knew was going to be brutal to the elderly. we knew that then, yet Cuomo ordered it anyway, and after he did that, and after people
we’re needlessly dying by the thousands, your side still
said he was the greatest.

That’s the difference between us, If Florida’s numbers catch up with NY, I will say Desantis did an awful job. But until he got in trouble for sexual harassment, no one in the left was saying Cuomo did an awful
job. Sure as hell you never said that.

Because to all of you except Rockhound, truth takes a back seat to partisanship. Always
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i did not say the data from last week is unimportant. I said it’s not nearly as important as total
death rates.

You are the one saying total death rates are unimportant.
No, I said learning is more important, but that doesn't fit your narrative.

Of course, you completely ignore that part of NYs awful numbers are because the governor ( who everyone in the left said was doing a great job) forced nursing homes to admit people with a disease we knew was going to be brutal to the elderly. we knew that then, yet Cuomo ordered it anyway, and after he did that, and after people
we’re needlessly dying by the thousands, your side still
said he was the greatest. You are perfectly willing to accept the Lardfather's transgressions, but obsess over any transgression of anyone you oppose. You're sort of like Lardfather's comment about Nikki Haley "Every time she criticizes me, she uncriticizes me about 15 minutes later"

That’s the difference between us, If Florida’s numbers catch up with NY, I will say Desantis did an awful job. But until he got in trouble for sexual harassment, no one in the left was saying Cuomo did an awful
job. Sure as hell you never said that.

Because to all of you except Rockhound, truth takes a back seat to partisanship. Always
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In 2018, Ron DeSantis won by: 32,000

Currently, Florida's COVID deaths: 49,000

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Facts and data are no concern of conservatives

But lies and conspiracy then you have their attention
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do you judge a state on how it did last month? or how it’s done since the beginning?

Are you guys serious?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

do you judge a state on how it did last month? or how it’s done since the beginning?

Are you guys serious?
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Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth

Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!

And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth

Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!

And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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it's amusing that you've convinced yourself of this....

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

it's amusing that you've convinced yourself of this....

About as amusing that you think trump won?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

About as amusing that you think trump won?

I didn't even vote for him...ever...pretty sure I was the first to pay my money to the charity in the wager we had going on here immediately following the election

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth

Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!

And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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nonsense. i literally analyze data for a living and it’s a huge influence for how i form conclusions.

I can say the same thing about liberals. liberals blame the gop for the fact that not everyone is vaccinated, yet two groups with low vaccination rates are blacks and people with PhDs. Those are not groups who take orders from the GOP in large numbers, are they?

In politics, plenty of people
on both sides ignore facts that are politically inconvenient for them.

The side that denies we have a porous southern border, which thinks that ones sex is whatever they say that it is, that unborn babies with heartbeats and neurological activity are nothing more than an inanimate mile to be removed, which thinks that fewer police is the key to improving cities, which denies that nuclear families are critically important…doesn’t have a monopoly on relying in facts.

Neither does the side that says Trump won, which denies anything is happening with our climate, which insists that masks and the vaccine don’t ever provide any benefit.

When you ignore every instance in which liberalism ignores facts, it’s pretty easy to conclude that they never do so. That doesn’t make it a true statement. It serves your personal agenda, but it’s a stupid thing to say.


The liberals here, are desperately trying to say Florida should be judged only on the covid deaths last week. Please tell me how that is an accurate depiction of facts or truth?

You won’t respond, because you can’t without criticizing the left.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

nonsense. i literally analyze data for a living and it’s a huge influence for how i form conclusions.




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Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...

example

GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off

Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...

example

GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off

Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less

good point, not every response is all about me.

but all you do is ignore all the bad things the left does, and ignore all the good things the right does. it’s all any of you do.

why is it absurd to ask who is instructing Biden who he can speak to, and when he must stop talking? I’d like to know that.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

good point, not every response is all about me.

but all you do is ignore all the bad things the left does, and ignore all the good things the right does. it’s all any of you do.

why is it absurd to ask who is instructing Biden who he can speak to, and when he must stop talking? I’d like to know that.
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So you believe the conspiracy of the mute button. Lol
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...

example

GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off

Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less

last night ,CNN host don lemon said we should
shun the unvaccinated, leave them
behind, and that the unvaccinated are stupid people who followed trump.

except huge. umbers if blacks and people with PhDs. aren’t vaccinated.

there’s a lefty defying facts for political convenience, which you said only republicans do.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

last night ,CNN host don lemon said we should
shun the unvaccinated, leave them
behind, and that the unvaccinated are stupid people who followed trump.

except huge. umbers if blacks and people with PhDs. aren’t vaccinated.

there’s a lefty defying facts for political convenience, which you said only republicans do.
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I'm flat out and don't have a lot of time to argue on here right now, so basically hit and run... but the PhD thing stuck out with me, as I have one, and am vaccinated...

This was an interesting take on the article, that the number (24% PhD not vaccinated) may not all its cracked up to be.... Not saying it is wrong, but how the number was gleaned was not super reliable it seems...

https://www.wnct.com/news/north-caro...-among-ph-d-s/

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

last night ,CNN host don lemon said we should
shun the unvaccinated, leave them
behind, and that the unvaccinated are stupid people who followed trump.

except huge. umbers if blacks and people with PhDs. aren’t vaccinated.

there’s a lefty defying facts for political convenience, which you said only republicans do.
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Once again you bring up blacks who Republicans out number 2 to 1 in this country.. and comparing the 2 vaccine non vaccinated rates as some how the same ?
Just so happens I saw that segment and his suggestion was leave all the unvaccinated behind. And that included blacks who hesitation is historical And Trump supporters it’s just political.. huge differences
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

do you judge a state on how it did last month? or how it’s done since the beginning?

Are you guys serious?
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