the Trump Phenomenon

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But isn't that what you do constantly - find something that you don't like and apply it to all? But generally, I agree with that statement and should have written "Actually it seems like it is the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people."

"But isn't that what you do constantly "

No.

"find something that you don't like and apply it to all?"

We've done this dance a few times. Yes, I make generalizations. For example, I might say that librals riot when they don't get their way. Now, I know that not every single liberal in the nation condones this. But the majority of people doing the rioting are obviously liberal, so i take the liberty of saying that "liberals riot when they don't get their way." It's a genaralization, but it's a much more valid generalization (in my opinion, naturally) than saying that "all" Trump supporters are in favor of punching those with whom they disagree, when you are generalizing about, what, 10 people out of millions?

"seems like it is the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people"

I have no problem with that statement. I don't see Hilary or Bernie supporters getting violent at those rallies, but that may be because conservatives aren't protesting like wild animals at those rallies, preventing Hilary or Bernie from speaking, are we?

Who is getting arrested for killing everybody in Chicago? Is that a bigger issue, or a smaller issue, than what 10 drunk morons do at Trump rallies?

And again, how many people are in the ground because of Trump-inspired violence? Zilch. Ho wmany are in the ground because of Sharpton - 6, 7, 8? And liberals are so upset with Sharpton for what he did, they gave him a show on MSNBC (which might actually be fitting punishment and humiliation for him, but that's not why the liberals did it).

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"But isn't that what you do constantly "

No.

"find something that you don't like and apply it to all?"

We've done this dance a few times. Yes, I make generalizations. For example, I might say that librals riot when they don't get their way. Now, I know that not every single liberal in the nation condones this. But the majority of people doing the rioting are obviously liberal, so i take the liberty of saying that "liberals riot when they don't get their way." It's a genaralization, but it's a much more valid generalization (in my opinion, naturally) than saying that "all" Trump supporters are in favor of punching those with whom they disagree, when you are generalizing about, what, 10 people out of millions?So then since I know that not every single conservative in the nation condones it but the majority of people doing the spitting and the sucker punching are obviously conservative should I take the liberty and generalize by saying "conservatives spit on people and sucker punch people when they don't like what those people say"? You're an actuary - both samples are too small to make that generalization. In addition, you generalize and make the obviously wrong assumption that the ones doing the protesting (and yes acting like idiots) are representative of all liberals instead of saying they are a much, much younger aged subset.

"seems like it is the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people"

I have no problem with that statement. I don't see Hilary or Bernie supporters getting violent at those rallies, but that may be because conservatives aren't protesting like wild animals at those rallies, preventing Hilary or Bernie from speaking, are we?I don't think the ones inside the arena's are acting like animals - maybe the idiots outside are.

Who is getting arrested for killing everybody in Chicago? Criminals areIs that a bigger issue, or a smaller issue, than what 10 drunk morons do at Trump rallies?

nm

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

nm

"should I take the liberty and generalize by saying "conservatives spit on people and sucker punch people when they don't like what those people say"?

No, if you say mean 'most' but say 'all', I have no issue. But what you said here (maybe I mis-read) is that 'all Trump suporters are doing this', when it's literally something like once for each million supporters. If I say "unions vote for democrats", I think I'm a bit closer to being accurate, then you are if you say 'Trump supporters are punching everyone out'.

"both samples are too small to make that generalization"

Not sure. In the case of rioters, just about 100% of them are liberal. I keep asking for examples of conservatives rioting to prevent liberal politicians from speaking, and no one responded, so I assume there are none. But 99.9% of Trump supporters haven't done anything wrong (maybe supporting him is bad enough, I could be convinced of that).

"you generalize and make the obviously wrong assumption that the ones doing the protesting (and yes acting like idiots) are representative of all liberals "

I hear lots of conservatives (LOTS) condemn Trump and the violence at his rallies. I haven't heard a single liberal tell the rioters to knock it off because Trump has the right to free speech. I see th erioters being treated like modern-day Rosa Parks. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Not sure. In the case of rioters, just about 100% of them are liberal. I keep asking for examples of conservatives rioting to prevent liberal politicians from speaking, and no one responded, so I assume there are none. But 99.9% of Trump supporters haven't done anything wrong (maybe supporting him is bad enough, I could be convinced of that).

I think you're asking the wrong question. Is the profile of someone who's more likely to riot about political belief or about disenfranchisement and inequality?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I think you're asking the wrong question. Is the profile of someone who's more likely to riot about political belief or about disenfranchisement and inequality?

Did you see the signs that the protesters in New York were carrying ? Or see the video of the transvestite punching the policeman's horse in the face ?
Curious if these are the type of people that you would let babysit your children because you certainly spend a lot of your time defending them
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I think you're asking the wrong question. Is the profile of someone who's more likely to riot about political belief or about disenfranchisement and inequality?

what we know from democrats is that mentioning the word riot(if you are a republican) is very bad....but actually rioting(if you are a democrat) is not such a big deal

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

what we know from democrats is that mentioning the word riot(if you are a republican) is very bad....but actually rioting(if you are a democrat) is not such a big deal

Correct. If it was about disenfranchisement, believe me, it would be the white, heterosexual males who would be rioting, after 7 years of Weird Harold blaming us for everything.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

what we know from democrats is that mentioning the word riot(if you are a republican) is very bad....but actually rioting(if you are a democrat) is not such a big deal

Correct. If it was about disenfranchisement, believe me, it would be the white, heterosexual males who would be rioting, after 7 years of Weird Harold blaming us for everything.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I think you're asking the wrong question. Is the profile of someone who's more likely to riot about political belief or about disenfranchisement and inequality?

Yes Spence. The kids at Yale who protested about giving someone else the right to free speech, are disenfranchised and are the victims of inequality. Many of the riots re on college campuses.

Good God man, not your finest speculation.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yes Spence. The kids at Yale who protested about giving someone else the right to free speech, are disenfranchised and are the victims of inequality. Many of the riots re on college campuses.

Yes, because some in their formative years are frustrated with what they see as societal disenfranchisement and inequality.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, because some in their formative years are frustrated with what they see as societal disenfranchisement and inequality.

Wait ...what ???
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

"seems like it is the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people"

https://youtu.be/3Lgeuqv35OM