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03-19-2016, 12:49 PM
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03-19-2016, 02:19 PM
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Where's Hillarys ?
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03-19-2016, 02:27 PM
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Where's Hillarys ?
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Pull down the people list... |
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03-20-2016, 07:23 AM
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Pull down the people list...
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I need a better site map to find it then what they have . Is it really there or are you pulling a Hillary ?
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03-19-2016, 04:31 PM
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a)...it's politifact so who cares
2)...meh..."they all lie"....right Eben?....maybe this makes him highly qualified for the job based on the standard previously set by Barry and Bubba
either way....don't expect much of a response when you've been defending the Clinton's and O for years...Trump is just trying to catch up to their level of deceit |
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03-19-2016, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
a)...it's politifact so who cares
2)...meh..."they all lie"....right Eben?....maybe this makes him highly qualified for the job based on the standard previously set by Barry and Bubba
either way....don't expect much of a response when you've been defending the Clinton's and O for years...Trump is just trying to catch up to their level of deceit
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Show me some Bernie sanders lies.
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03-19-2016, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Show me some Bernie sanders lies.
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I'm just quoting one of your frequent refrains...are you suggesting Bernie doesn't lie and if he somehow doesn't, is somehow untainted by the dirt of politics ...perhaps he's too honest for the job ? |
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03-19-2016, 09:45 PM
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I'm just quoting one of your frequent refrains...are you suggesting Bernie doesn't lie and if he somehow doesn't, is somehow untainted by the dirt of politics ...perhaps he's too honest for the job ?
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Show me examples of him flat out saying one thing and doing another in a deceitful way. You can't
As for the ghetto comment I don't agree with what he said but i wouldn't call that a deceitful lie.
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03-19-2016, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Show me some Bernie sanders lies.
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Maybe this guy would like some clarification on why he doesn't know what it's like to be poor.....
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-21-2016, 10:05 AM
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Maybe this guy would like some clarification on why he doesn't know what it's like to be poor.....
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Exactly. His speech about whites not knowing what it's like to live in ghettos, managed to tick off the whites and the blacks. This is what you get from a close-minded liberal from VT, where there aren't any blacks.
I don't think Bernie's as big a liar as some others, but he's more wrong than maybe anyone who has run since Al Sharpton.
You cannot say that since socialism does OK in Scandanavia, it will work OK here. Those countries are tiny, and overwhelmingly white. You can't compare stanradr-of-living ratios of Switzeland, to that of America. If you want, you can compare the Swiss results to the parts of America that look like Switzerland (Greenwich CT comes to mind), and in that case, the US would compare quite well. Move Mexico to the southern border of any Scandanavian country, make it an open border, and see what that socialist paradise looks like in 20 years.
Bernie doesn't buy into that. He thinks that what works in Norway, will work similarly here. That doesn't make him a liar Nebe (becaause I think he sincerely believes that), but it makes him dangerously unqualified for the job he seeks. |
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03-19-2016, 01:13 PM
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Are you surprised Spence?
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03-19-2016, 02:01 PM
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Are you surprised Spence?
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It's even worse than I assumed. 78% is mostly false to pants on fire?
I don't think I could do that if I tried. |
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03-20-2016, 06:26 AM
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They all may do it but trump takes it to the next level.
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03-20-2016, 08:29 PM
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I watched Bernie's rally speech in Arizona a little earlier...the guy is a friggin' lunatic...the crowd did get the most animated when he got to the part about pot....which I guess explains the fascination....lot's of democrats getting arrested this weekend  |
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03-21-2016, 07:04 AM
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Actually it seems like it is all the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people. Another one Sat. night.
Good thing they aren't arresting people for spitting on other people. The jails would be full.
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03-21-2016, 07:23 AM
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Another "one" Sat. night.
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fixed it for you....and he, by the way was a "black" Trump supporter who apparently doesn't exist, and he punched a white Trump protester dressed as a KKK member who was acting like an idiot.....you'd think in lib land that would be perfectly justified....
I guess you missed all of the blocked traffic, protesters chained to their vehicle's and other's jumping on and damaging other people's property, arrests and general mayhem.... |
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03-21-2016, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Actually it seems like it is all the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people. Another one Sat. night.
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In which the actions of "one" necessarily speak for "all".
There's so much legitimate criticism to heap on this guy, for one thing, he's not denouncing the violence. One person doesn't speak for the tens of millions who support him. |
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03-21-2016, 10:54 AM
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In which the actions of "one" necessarily speak for "all".
There's so much legitimate criticism to heap on this guy, for one thing, he's not denouncing the violence. One person doesn't speak for the tens of millions who support him.
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But isn't that what you do constantly - find something that you don't like and apply it to all? But generally, I agree with that statement and should have written "Actually it seems like it is the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people." |
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03-21-2016, 11:34 AM
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But isn't that what you do constantly - find something that you don't like and apply it to all? But generally, I agree with that statement and should have written "Actually it seems like it is the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people."
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"But isn't that what you do constantly "
No.
"find something that you don't like and apply it to all?"
We've done this dance a few times. Yes, I make generalizations. For example, I might say that librals riot when they don't get their way. Now, I know that not every single liberal in the nation condones this. But the majority of people doing the rioting are obviously liberal, so i take the liberty of saying that "liberals riot when they don't get their way." It's a genaralization, but it's a much more valid generalization (in my opinion, naturally) than saying that "all" Trump supporters are in favor of punching those with whom they disagree, when you are generalizing about, what, 10 people out of millions?
"seems like it is the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people"
I have no problem with that statement. I don't see Hilary or Bernie supporters getting violent at those rallies, but that may be because conservatives aren't protesting like wild animals at those rallies, preventing Hilary or Bernie from speaking, are we?
Who is getting arrested for killing everybody in Chicago? Is that a bigger issue, or a smaller issue, than what 10 drunk morons do at Trump rallies?
And again, how many people are in the ground because of Trump-inspired violence? Zilch. Ho wmany are in the ground because of Sharpton - 6, 7, 8? And liberals are so upset with Sharpton for what he did, they gave him a show on MSNBC (which might actually be fitting punishment and humiliation for him, but that's not why the liberals did it). |
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03-21-2016, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"But isn't that what you do constantly "
No.
"find something that you don't like and apply it to all?"
We've done this dance a few times. Yes, I make generalizations. For example, I might say that librals riot when they don't get their way. Now, I know that not every single liberal in the nation condones this. But the majority of people doing the rioting are obviously liberal, so i take the liberty of saying that "liberals riot when they don't get their way." It's a genaralization, but it's a much more valid generalization (in my opinion, naturally) than saying that "all" Trump supporters are in favor of punching those with whom they disagree, when you are generalizing about, what, 10 people out of millions?So then since I know that not every single conservative in the nation condones it but the majority of people doing the spitting and the sucker punching are obviously conservative should I take the liberty and generalize by saying "conservatives spit on people and sucker punch people when they don't like what those people say"? You're an actuary - both samples are too small to make that generalization. In addition, you generalize and make the obviously wrong assumption that the ones doing the protesting (and yes acting like idiots) are representative of all liberals instead of saying they are a much, much younger aged subset.
"seems like it is the Trump supporters getting arrested for sucker punching people"
I have no problem with that statement. I don't see Hilary or Bernie supporters getting violent at those rallies, but that may be because conservatives aren't protesting like wild animals at those rallies, preventing Hilary or Bernie from speaking, are we?I don't think the ones inside the arena's are acting like animals - maybe the idiots outside are.
Who is getting arrested for killing everybody in Chicago? Criminals areIs that a bigger issue, or a smaller issue, than what 10 drunk morons do at Trump rallies?
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03-21-2016, 07:42 AM
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Tough guys spitting on people being led away. Even Trump's campaign manager can't control his temper.
Trump even called the sucker puncher "wonderful".
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03-21-2016, 10:09 AM
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Trump even called the sucker puncher "wonderful".
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And if that's true, THAT'S why he isn't qualified for this job. |
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03-21-2016, 03:22 PM
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i think we should riot
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03-22-2016, 07:45 AM
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Great video
Great points made
I hope the media does show all the stuff he mentioned, but apparently it does not fit their sgenda much like you don't see anything of the 4 illegals beating and raping in Framingham last week.
My thoughts on the protesting are if they are this bad now, I can't imagine what it will be like when he is President for the next 4 years.
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03-22-2016, 08:35 AM
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My thoughts on the protesting are if they are this bad now, I can't imagine what it will be like when he is President for the next 4 years.
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Not when. IF.
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03-24-2016, 01:35 PM
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Maybe we need to back off on this Trump phenomenon before someone gets really hurt ..
Emory University offers 'emergency counseling' to students after they were 'traumatized' when someone wrote "Trump 2016" in chalk around campus...
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03-24-2016, 01:47 PM
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Maybe we need to back off on this Trump phenomenon before someone gets really hurt ..
Emory University offers 'emergency counseling' to students after they were 'traumatized' when someone wrote "Trump 2016" in chalk around campus...
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I saw at! Amazing. You see a message that says "Trump 2016", and that causes you to need emergency counseling. Have fun in the real world, cupcake! |
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03-24-2016, 03:48 PM
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Lol
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03-24-2016, 05:08 PM
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