This is insanity

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

That is at least slightly more reasonable to be concerned about as a righter. The r's are big fans of "by the people" so considering whether D.C., which in modern times has the population greater than Wyoming, Vermont, and about equal to Alaska should get statehood shouldn't be consider such a threat, but rather a way to achieve for...and by the people for those Americans. Puerto Rico and territories have no shot, but D.C. worth debating.

Thank Mitch for the extra justices discussion. Reasonable to debate given his embarrassing power grab. The history buffs here would know that the current electoral system is nothing like what the founders envisioned and was born out of, among other things, distrust of the people to be knowledgeable enough to direct elect and served as a way to "consolidate power" of the slave states. It was debated before, it is always open to debate.

Democrats raising these ideas in response to the current state of the union isn't something that needs to be fixed. They are issues have been debated and revisited since the earliest days.

ending the fillibuster, stacking the supreme court, giving voting rights to illegals, and adding states to get around the electoral college, have never been seriously considered until now, not by people
with actual influence.

we elected the dems, so if those things happen, we deserve it. but let’s not say those are things that have been seriously considered.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

ending the fillibuster (Henry Clay 1841), stacking the supreme court (Congress changed the
Court’s size multiple times during the nineteenth century.) , giving voting rights to illegals (no person with actual influence has called for this), and adding states to get around the electoral college (In 1889 and 1890, Congress added North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Washington, Idaho, and Wyoming—the largest admission of states since the original 13. This addition of 12 new senators and 18 new electors to the Electoral College was a deliberate strategy of late-19th-century Republicans to stay in power after their swing toward Big Business cost them a popular majority. The strategy paid dividends deep into the future; indeed, the admission of so many rural states back then helps to explain GOP control of the Senate today, 130 years later.), have never been seriously considered until now, not by people with actual influence.

we elected the dems, so if those things happen, we deserve it. but let’s not say those are things that have been seriously considered.
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But you are arguably incorrect.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

But you are arguably incorrect.

Did Jim actually write that crap? Our collective knowledge of history isn't very good I guess.
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