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07-25-2022, 02:05 PM
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Once again you missed American Political history.
Just keep thinking today’s Trumplican party is the party of Lincoln and that Atwater’s southern strategy never happened.
But sure Jim, let’s see if Tweety destroys the Republican Party as I said he would years ago.
You’ve certainly flip flopped about your hero.
Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said.
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07-25-2022, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
oys the Republican Party as I said he would years ago.
You’ve certainly flip flopped about your hero.
Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said.
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I've flip flopped on Trump? Well, I guess you can't go 2 seconds without lying. I've said from day 1 that he's amorally bankrupt reptile, a vindictive, immature jerk, who nonetheless implemented policies that people actually like (he broke the record in the Gallup poll asking Americans if they're better off after 4 years of his presidency, how else would you interpret that?).
"Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said."
Oh, I agree with that. I have always said I hope he doesn't run again. So I have no clue what you're responding to.
Could you please tell me, how I've flip flopped on Trump?
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07-25-2022, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I've flip flopped on Trump? Well, I guess you can't go 2 seconds without lying. I've said from day 1 that he's amorally bankrupt reptile, a vindictive, immature jerk, who nonetheless implemented policies that people actually like (he broke the record in the Gallup poll asking Americans if they're better off after 4 years of his presidency, how else would you interpret that?).
"Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said."
Oh, I agree with that. I have always said I hope he doesn't run again. So I have no clue what you're responding to.
Could you please tell me, how I've flip flopped on Trump?
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Scrub all you want, you’ll never get the Trump stench off.
Morals don’t matter, do they?
Next you’ll explain again how Trump supported NATO, even though at his rally he said as president he told European NATO allies that he would not come to their defense if they were invaded by Russia. “That’s right, I will not come to your defense,” he says he told our allies. The audience cheered.
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07-25-2022, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Scrub all you want, you’ll never get the Trump stench off.
Morals don’t matter, do they?
Next you’ll explain again how Trump supported NATO, even though at his rally he said as president he told European NATO allies that he would not come to their defense if they were invaded by Russia. “That’s right, I will not come to your defense,” he says he told our allies. The audience cheered.
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For the second time now, when did I flip flop on Trump? Or did you lie and make that up?
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07-25-2022, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Once again you missed American Political history.
Just keep thinking today’s Trumplican party is the party of Lincoln and that Atwater’s southern strategy never happened.
But sure Jim, let’s see if Tweety destroys the Republican Party as I said he would years ago.
You’ve certainly flip flopped about your hero.
Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said.
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You also dodged the question on overturning supreme court precedents. Are you ever OK with overturning supreme court precedents? Because after Roe got overruled, the reaction from the left was outrage that they overturned a precedent. Not that their opinion was legally wrong, but merely that they overturned precedent
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07-25-2022, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
You also dodged the question on overturning supreme court precedents. Are you ever OK with overturning supreme court precedents? Because after Roe got overruled, the reaction from the left was outrage that they overturned a precedent. Not that their opinion was legally wrong, but merely that they overturned precedent
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In addition to being legally wrong, all of the radical right wing justices said in their hearings before Congress that Roe was settled law.
I expected no less from the Christian Nationalist Court.
They also stated that other settled law should be looked at also.
You won’t worry about it till they come after special education and associated entitlements.
Because states rights
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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07-25-2022, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
In addition to being legally wrong, all of the radical right wing justices said in their hearings before Congress that Roe was settled law.
I expected no less from the Christian Nationalist Court.
They also stated that other settled law should be looked at also.
You won’t worry about it till they come after special education and associated entitlements.
Because states rights
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"In addition to being legally wrong,"
Not exactly a lot of substance there, as to why it's legally wrong. Because you can't provide any substance as to why it's not legally wrong.
"all of the radical right wing justices said in their hearings before Congress that Roe was settled law."
Did any of them pledge never, under any circumstances, to overturn any historical precedents? Sorry, it was Ginsburg who started the practice of refusing to make those specific promises, and every single nominee after her has said the same thing.
Since you keep dodging, I'll ask for the 3rd time...are you ever OK with overturning supreme court precedents? Or is it "settled law" every time the SCOTUS makes a ruling? Or is it only settled law when they make a ruling you happen to like?
"They also stated that other settled law should be looked at also."
If they believe that previous settled law was settled incorrectly according to the constitution, then it's their job to consider hearing it. There oath isn't to upholding precedent, it's to preserving the constitution.
"You won’t worry about it till they come after special education and associated entitlements."
I have a special needs kid, I'm very content with the feds staying completely out of his education, and letting those decisions be made locally.
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