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09-22-2020, 12:43 PM
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You’re the desperate person, that’s why you’re posting 20X a day to try and rationalize the voices in your head.
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09-22-2020, 12:44 PM
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You’re the desperate person, that’s why you’re posting 20X a day to try and rationalize the voices in your head.
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that would make you twice as desperate
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09-22-2020, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You’re the desperate person, that’s why you’re posting 20X a day to try and rationalize the voices in your head.
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I've been posting way less here, but I am enjoying you all go berserk.
My posts aren't bonkers. Between you and I, I am the only one who can admit his side plays dirty and is guilty of hypocrisy. Your brain just can't go there. Democrats are always flawless in yoru world.
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09-22-2020, 12:46 PM
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Not by half
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09-22-2020, 01:12 PM
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Don’t worry, Russian state media says if Tweety loses they’ll still keep him employed.
He might have room for you to visit at his dacha
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09-22-2020, 01:59 PM
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Taking a vote pre-election is a sure fire sign McConnell is already writing off Collins, Gardner, etc. AND Trump
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09-22-2020, 04:06 PM
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I’m for term limits and I don’t think judges elected for life really reflect America evolving and changing with the times. Three term is more than enough a IMHO, then go back to private practice and PAY for your own heath care and retirement.
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09-22-2020, 04:17 PM
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this is great....buzzy dies and trump gets to nominate her replacement and the republican senate gets to confirm the nominee...all perfectly constitutional
and...
the dummies respond by threatening to pack the court, eliminate the electoral college, impeach trump daily, make new states etc. because they think that will ensure they will be in power forever...
and and now...suddenly... term limits for judges
the left is crazy and dangerous....
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09-22-2020, 08:03 PM
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I hear lots of high-minded talk during the Supreme Court fight from "conservatives" about the Constitution, the right to life, the rule of law, limited government, honoring the vision of the Founders, etc. I remember that the people making these arguments support Donald Trump
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09-22-2020, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I hear lots of high-minded talk during the Supreme Court fight from "conservatives" about the Constitution, the right to life, the rule of law, limited government, honoring the vision of the Founders, etc. I remember that the people making these arguments support Donald Trump
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So you're saying that Biden should be the preferred candidate of the pro-life voters?
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09-22-2020, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I hear lots of high-minded talk during the Supreme Court fight from "conservatives" about the Constitution, the right to life, the rule of law, limited government, honoring the vision of the Founders, etc. I remember that the people making these arguments support Donald Trump
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They're supporting their party. Can't win if you diss your own. We're talking politics here. Trump has pretty much been held within current constitutional bounds.
Of course you think he is a constitution busting dictatorial NAZI. His judge picks are more constitutionally oriented than picks that the Dems would make.
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09-22-2020, 10:58 PM
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In your view
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09-23-2020, 05:48 AM
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In your view
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based on facts.
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09-23-2020, 06:06 AM
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As he said, party before country and one man clearly controls that party
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09-23-2020, 06:59 AM
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As he said, party before country and one man clearly controls that party
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show me where he said party before country, please? Hearing voices? Off your meds?
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09-23-2020, 07:03 AM
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“They're supporting their party.“
That’s exactly what he said
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09-23-2020, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
“They're supporting their party.“
That’s exactly what he said
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OK. And why do you make the leap to 'party over country'?
Common sense suggests that when one joins a party, one does so because they feel that party's agenda is better for the country, than the agenda of the other party.
YOU don't always support your party? Not always? Not every single time?
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09-23-2020, 07:18 AM
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Poor Jim, it’s been obvious for the past three years that for Trumplicans it’s the man that counts.
It was a big story the first time Trump
1) held a rally during a pandemic
2) made bigoted attacks on Rep. Omar
3) praised the assault of a journalist
Last night he did all three... and none of it is breaking through. It's just the accepted behavior of the president now.
And perfectly ok with Trumplicans
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09-23-2020, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Poor Jim, it’s been obvious for the past three years that for Trumplicans it’s the man that counts.
It was a big story the first time Trump
1) held a rally during a pandemic
2) made bigoted attacks on Rep. Omar
3) praised the assault of a journalist
Last night he did all three... and none of it is breaking through. It's just the accepted behavior of the president now.
And perfectly ok with Trumplicans
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I asked you a very simple question - aren't you a prime example of someone who always supports his party? Youi respond with a Trump attack.
"for Trumplicans it’s the man that counts"
Exactly wrong. I despise him as a man. For his supporters, it's his policies and results that count. I hate his ethics. I like his agenda.
Tell me that's not the same logic democrats used to defend their support for Bill Clinton? To this day, in the era of #metoo, Bill Clinton is still worshipped among democrats. So spare me your phony sanctimonious bullsh*t. Democrats liked what Bill Clinton did (as did I), therefore they are more than willing to overlook his disgusting moral compass. We do the same thing with Trump.
But it's OK when you do it, a character flaw when I do it? Spare me. You can't have it both ways Pete. What's good for the goose...
You have an appetite for humiliation today, I see.
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09-23-2020, 07:48 AM
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Sorry Jim, my agenda has always been that the barking carnival clown is unqualified and incompetent.
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09-23-2020, 08:02 AM
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Sorry Jim, my agenda has always been that the barking carnival clown is unqualified and incompetent.
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What does it say about the flimsiness of your beliefs, that when I ask a simple but challenging question, you cannot come close to answering?
Destroyed, yet again.
I asked you about how it is that democrats can lecture about the need for character, when Bill Clinton is still a hero? You respond to that question, with orangemanbad. it's all you got. Except you don't even have that, because I concede he's a bad person, but like you with Clinton, I'm supporting his policy agenda.
But again, it's OK when you do it, bad when we do it.
Pulverized, like Ralphies glasses in A Christmas Story.
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09-23-2020, 08:15 AM
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You are a sad, sad little man.
Your measure of your self worth is dependent on your belief that you won an argument on the internet.
Tweety’s happy that everyone is arguing over Ginsberg’s replacement while he’s gave what is on the surface an anti-China speech at the UN--but listening to his Chinese counterpart speak, Trump's speech did China & Xi a favor by allowing China to present itself as the more responsible country, one that believes in international cooperation.
But pay no attention to that or the fact that even holding both houses and the presidency he couldn’t kill the ACA and now will do it with right wing activist judges.
Where is Trump's health care plan? There are just six weeks till Election Day. How has he not released a health care plan? Where is it? Why won't he release it? What is he hiding? Or does he still not have one, after dozens of promises over years to release a plan? Where is it?
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09-23-2020, 09:15 AM
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You are a sad, sad little man.
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I can easily and happily answer every question you have ever asked. All you do is dodge and insult.
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09-23-2020, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
But pay no attention to that or the fact that even holding both houses and the presidency he couldn’t kill the ACA
So what you said, "it’s been obvious for the past three years that for Trumplicans it’s the man that counts" and "one man clearly controls that party" is not true?
and now will do it with right wing activist judges.
Constitutionalist judges are not "activist."
Where is Trump's health care plan? There are just six weeks till Election Day. How has he not released a health care plan? Where is it? Why won't he release it? What is he hiding? Or does he still not have one, after dozens of promises over years to release a plan? Where is it?
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The Constitution does not give the President the duty, nor the power, to create national health care plans.
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09-23-2020, 09:57 AM
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The Constitution does not give the President the duty, nor the power, to create national health care plans.
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Ok
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Lets Go Darwin
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09-23-2020, 10:11 AM
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The President can't enact a health care plan. He can sign a bill enacted by Congress. In the video, he kept referring to "we." If the "we" is Congress, then it is not something he created and enacted. If the "we" are advisers to Trump drawing up a plan, Trump cannot enact it. He would have to submit it to Congress, and Congress would create the bill.
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09-23-2020, 08:56 AM
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Exactly wrong. I despise him as a man. For his supporters, it's his policies and results that count. I hate his ethics. I like his agenda.
Funny did that type of thinking work for Germans.
I hated Hilter the man and his killing of jews. But i like his results and agenda
Jim you can't go fishing with a child molester or rapist and claim your only with them for the boating and fishing
You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly ... didn't your catholic back ground teach that?
Your like the rest of the conservatism lost rudderless no morals ethics purely Transactional
Also why now can the senate do a court justice but not a covid relive bill. Or would that just help blue states so f it ?
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09-23-2020, 09:14 AM
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Exactly wrong. I despise him as a man. For his supporters, it's his policies and results that count. I hate his ethics. I like his agenda.
Funny did that type of thinking work for Germans.
I hated Hilter the man and his killing of jews. But i like his results and agenda
Jim you can't go fishing with a child molester or rapist and claim your only with them for the boating and fishing
You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly ... didn't your catholic back ground teach that?
Your like the rest of the conservatism lost rudderless no morals ethics purely Transactional
Also why now can the senate do a court justice but not a covid relive bill. Or would that just help blue states so f it ?
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WDMSO, Bill Clinton is a serial, lifelong abuser of women, and he is a hero among democrats, got a prime speaking gig at their convention.
So I'll ask you the question Pete can't answer. If it's OK for democrats to overlook Clintons awful morals and admire his political accomplishments, why is it comparable to Naziism when Republicans do the same with Trump?
You have fun trying to answer that.
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09-23-2020, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Exactly wrong. I despise him as a man. For his supporters, it's his policies and results that count. I hate his ethics. I like his agenda.
Funny did that type of thinking work for Germans.
I hated Hilter the man and his killing of jews. But i like his results and agenda
Jim you can't go fishing with a child molester or rapist and claim your only with them for the boating and fishing
You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly ... didn't your catholic back ground teach that?
Your like the rest of the conservatism lost rudderless no morals ethics purely Transactional
Also why now can the senate do a court justice but not a covid relive bill. Or would that just help blue states so f it ?
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"You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly"
Fine. Then to the same exact degree, you own Clinton's ugly deeds as well as the accusations against Biden.
Fair enough?
"didn't your catholic back ground teach that?"
My Catholicism makes it crystal clear that there's only one party to support. Here's a hint, it's not the party that celebrates 9th month abortions and tramples on the rights of the Little Sisters Of The Poor.
"lost rudderless no morals "
Anytime you'd like to have a rational, sane comparison of each others moral compass, I'm game.
I'm the one being consistent. You are the one with no morals or rudder. You say I own Trump (which is ridiculous), but you'd never admit you own Clintons character or Bidens. Only you get to support immoral people without having a stain. Its evil when the other side does it, perfectly OK when you do it. Because CNN said so.
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09-23-2020, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly"
Fine. Then to the same exact degree, you own Clinton's ugly deeds as well as the accusations against Biden.
Fair enough?
"didn't your catholic back ground teach that?"
My Catholicism makes it crystal clear that there's only one party to support. Here's a hint, it's not the party that celebrates 9th month abortions and tramples on the rights of the Little Sisters Of The Poor.
"lost rudderless no morals "
Anytime you'd like to have a rational, sane comparison of each others moral compass, I'm game.
I'm the one being consistent. You are the one with no morals or rudder. You say I own Trump (which is ridiculous), but you'd never admit you own Clintons character or Bidens. Only you get to support immoral people without having a stain. Its evil when the other side does it, perfectly OK when you do it. Because CNN said so.
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Bill Clinton is your response your deep in the trump fan club any other imanagry comparison you what to make.? Ps last time i checked Catholicism cares more than just abortion. We know you don't. Your false comparison are endless.. your Transactional funny what your willing to over look or even forgive with Trump but you do not provide the same forgiveness to Clinton's or Biden.
So much for that Moral commpass you ke3p telling us you have
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