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Old 10-04-2021, 12:54 PM   #1
Jim in CT
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Sorry, I’ve managed union work in construction.

Union shop, you need to talk to the reps about what you’d like them to do. Common goals work.

That’s the difference between manager and master.
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"Sorry, I’ve managed union work in construction. "

And I've been in a teachers union. Since we're talking about education, which is more relevant?

"you need to talk to the reps about what you’d like them to do. Common goals work."

Not in any teachers union. Not how it works.
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Old 10-04-2021, 01:41 PM   #2
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"Sorry, I’ve managed union work in construction. "

And I've been in a teachers union. Since we're talking about education, which is more relevant?

"you need to talk to the reps about what you’d like them to do. Common goals work."

Not in any teachers union. Not how it works.
I've been on a school board, that is how teacher contracts work.

A principal is an administrator and can't arbitrarily change work rules. That's not how it works.

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Old 10-04-2021, 01:50 PM   #3
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I've been on a school board, that is how teacher contracts work.

A principal is an administrator and can't arbitrarily change work rules. That's not how it works.
right. so asking teachers to spend three minutes looking in the hallway, is a big “change to work
rules” when you’re in a union, something they wouldn’t have to ask twice if teachers in a private school.

That’s the difference. It’s a big difference to many people. It’s indicative that public teachers answer to the union, while private school teachers answer to the families they serve, and that difference in mindset, is precisely why private schools are so much better. it’s why people
have disdain for the unions.
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Old 10-04-2021, 02:27 PM   #4
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right. so asking teachers to spend three minutes looking in the hallway, is a big “change to work
rules” when you’re in a union, something they wouldn’t have to ask twice if teachers in a private school.

That’s the difference. It’s a big difference to many people. It’s indicative that public teachers answer to the union, while private school teachers answer to the families they serve, and that difference in mindset, is precisely why private schools are so much better. it’s why people
have disdain for the unions.
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I did not say it was a "big" change.
It's a change, and I suppose I could just tell my insurance company that I want a little more coverage, they wouldn't want compensation.

You seem to think since you work in the private sector, you are entitled to a higher income with less responsibility.

And those who teach should just be grateful for the opportunity and behave correctly.

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