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Old 09-02-2015, 09:52 AM   #1
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
Detbuch, believe me I hear you. Lots of things I wish they did differently (better). They aren't nearly as effective as they could/should be. But what I was responding to, was the notion that we're all a bunch of extremist kooks like Trump, and that we're becoming irrelevant. Lawrence O'Donnell said 2 nights ago that the fact that Trump is in the lead, is evidence of "why Republican can't win any elections anymore". This guy has his own show, and he says something that demonstrably false (again, remember last November?) and no one challenges him.

Our candidates have not performed as expected. Our agenda is still superior, in every way agendas can be compared, to the democratic agenda, at least at the national level.
There are "agendas" and there are, as Spence might say, "systems." Agendas can be a written list, adhered to or not. Or they can be a litany of spoken promises, adhered to or not. Agendas which are not adhered to are basically lies. Deceptions which amount to no more than ideological holograms meant to attract votes.

Of our two main parties, the Democrats are more faithful to their agenda than are the Republicans. Which is not to say that the Democrats are more honest. Though their agenda is obvious, they have had to lie (less and less over time) that it is an American agenda. One that is good for notions of freedom, free trade, historic American values, and supports our Constitution and its founding principles. The Progressive agenda, from its beginning, has been the opposite of all those things. It has actually been an expansion of European socialism functioning through a copy of nineteenth century European administrative statism. After having to lie for votes the past few decades, the true nature of Progressivism is now more open for view. The quasi-American leaders of the party are more and more giving way to its far left proponents. And it is openly so. There are no more Scoop Jacksons or Sam Nunns in the party. Even Joe Lieberman does not fit in.

The Republican establishment leaders do not oppose the Democrat statists in reality. Just by promises. Verbal holograms meant to get votes. Give us the House, and things will change. Well, then, we now also need for you to give us the Senate. All right then . . . ok . . . now we also need for you to give us the Presidency. THEN things will change. Maybe. But really? That may depend more on the "system" than the promised agenda. As attested to by the "far right conservative" who is forecasting the death of the Republican Party:

http://www.redstate.com/2015/09/01/n...tm_campaign=nl

That may not be all bad. Just as Whigs were transformed into the Republicans more on an "agenda" basis rather than a systemic one, the current Republican Party can be transformed or replaced again by crushing the "system" and adhering to an American Constitutional agenda.

So far, a Ted Cruz candidacy and election would be a major step in that direction. If he is as incorruptible as he seems
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