FBI…

[Jim in CT]

wdmso you’re right, they have no obligation to reveal anything.

But this is an organization that has gone out of its way to get americans to distrust them. AG Eric Holder said “I’m Obama’s wingman”, which is an explicit, overt statement that the DOJ is now politicized. The IRS targeted conservatives. The FBI lied to a FISA court to kick off the russian hoax. They threatened to go after parents who speak up at school board meetings. They buried the Hunter Biden facts.

If your goal was to stir up the crazies on the right, this is exactly how i’d do it. It’s precisely how i’d do it.

This doesn’t mean that they didn’t have perfectly legitimate reasons to search trumps home. But there’s a pattern here of using the DOJ as a club against the right. America doesn’t care if you refuse to concede that pattern.
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[PaulS]

The Trump appointed Wray agrees with Hillary:

Christopher Wray, who was appointed as the agency’s director in 2017 by Trump, called threats circulating online against federal agents and the Justice Department “deplorable and dangerous.”

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The Trump appointed Wray agrees with Hillary:

Christopher Wray, who was appointed as the agency’s director in 2017 by Trump, called threats circulating online against federal agents and the Justice Department “deplorable and dangerous.”

threats are indeed deplorable
And dangerous. has anyone disagreed?

That same Christopher Wray, said he finds it “deeply troubling” the way FBI agents swept the hunter biden affair under the rug.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/20...ation-00049922

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[PaulS]

What did Hillary say 1/2 of the Repub. are in a basket of deplorables?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

What did Hillary say 1/2 of the Repub. are in a basket of deplorables?

yeah she did say it, and many say it cost her the election.

summer of love, who committed all that violence? republicans? the tea party?

no shortage of extremists on either side paul.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yeah she did say it, and many say it cost her the election.

summer of love, who committed all that violence? republicans? the tea party?

no shortage of extremists on either side paul.
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Hmmm last I heard every single mass shooting was done by a white male alt right conservative.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Hmmm last I heard every single mass shooting was done by a white male alt right conservative.
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(1) are those the only crimes in the world? the people burning cities in the summer of 2020, those weren’t liberal lunatics?

(2) as TDF said, your facts are wrong.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

(1) are those the only crimes in the world? the people burning cities in the summer of 2020, those weren’t liberal lunatics?

(2) as TDF said, your facts are wrong.
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Your facts are wrong

Man who helped ignite George Floyd riots identified as white supremacist: Police

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped...ry?id=72051536
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yeah she did say it, and many say it cost her the election.

summer of love, who committed all that violence? republicans? the tea party?

no shortage of extremists on either side paul.
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How do you know it was all Dems? BC a lot of them were Black?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How do you know it was all Dems? BC a lot of them were Black?

So you don't concede that BLM and Antifa are mostly on the left. Yet you know that everyone threatening the FBI is a conservative.

I forgot what a treat it is to talk to you.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So you don't concede that BLM and Antifa are mostly on the left. Yet you know that everyone threatening the FBI is a conservative.

I forgot what a treat it is to talk to you.

Then don't respond. I am clear in voicing what I think of you.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you implied that the threats against the FBI are from the right ( a very logical assumption, obviously) but deny that BLM/antifa thugs are left wing extremists. Ridiculous.
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I did no such thing.

Originally Posted by PaulS

How do you know it was all Dems? BC a lot of them were Black?

I asked 2 questions.

So you're a scummy liar.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I did no such thing.



I asked 2 questions.

So you're a scummy liar.

Right. You followed the reference to the FBI threats with a reference to Hilary saying that half of the countrys republicans are deplorable, and that was just a coincidence. Sure Paul.

If you want to deny that BLM and Antifa are left-leaning, it's a free country.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Then you may want to pay attention to the news a little more
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[Pete F.]

The far right has taken control of the Republican Party
They use terror to do it, for instance.

Michigan Rep. Peter Meijer wrote shortly after the attack about a fellow representative who bowed to the terrorists’ demands (and “terrorist” is the right word for someone who uses or threatens violence to influence politics):

My colleague told me that efforts to overturn the election were wrong, and that voting to certify was a constitutional duty. But my colleague feared for family members, and the danger the vote would put them in. Profoundly shaken, my colleague voted to overturn. An angry mob succeeded in threatening at least one member of Congress from performing what that member understood was a constitutional responsibility.

This domestic terrorist threat has increased over the past years, starting from the Oklahoma bombing it’s continually grown.
From this thread content I can see that people know about Wray’s statement.
The suggestion that the DOJ and FBI should be driven by terrorist’s demands is comical.
What other terrorist group has the US government conceded to?

Here’s the FBI definition of domestic terrorism

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

If you want to claim “they didn’t do it yet” the act of threatening is a crime and for good reason.

A violent crime, violent felony, crime of violence or crime of a violent nature is a crime in which an offender or perpetrator uses or threatens to use harmful force upon a victim. This entails both crimes in which the violent act is the objective, such as murder, assault, rape and assassination, as well as crimes in which violence is used as a method of coercion or show of force, such as robbery, extortion and terrorism. Violent crimes may, or may not, be committed with weapons.

But Hunter, Hillary and race riots…..🤡s
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[Pete F.]

Trump is the person who revealed MAL had been searched.

The FBI went in plainclothes, after informing the SS.

Trump has a copy of the search warrant that lists the crimes they are investigating.
He has the inventory of what was seized.

Trump is the one withholding that information.

Why won't Trump tell us if he's under investigation for violating the Espionage Act?

Did the warrant list 18 USC 793? Yes, or no.

Your leader is a crook, a conman and you’re his marks.
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[Pete F.]

In June 2020, the think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) assembled a database of 893 terrorism incidents in the United States beginning in 1994.[19][58][259] An analysis of the database conducted by The Guardian in July 2020 found no murders linked to antifa or anti-fascism since 1994. According to The Guardian, the only death resulting from an anti-fascist attack recorded in the database was that of Willem van Spronsen, who was shot dead by police while allegedly firebombing a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention center in Tacoma, Washington. In contrast, the study highlighted the fact that 329 people were killed by American white supremacists or other right-wing extremists during the same period. The Guardian quoted Heidi Beirich, a co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, as saying that "Antifa is not going around murdering people like rightwing extremists are. It's a false equivalence. I've at times been critical of antifa for getting into fights with Nazis at rallies and that kind of violence, but I can't think of one case in which an antifa person was accused of murder." Seth Jones, a counter-terrorism expert who led the creation of the CSIS's database, told The Guardian that "[l]eftwing violence has not been a major terrorism threat" and that "the most significant domestic terrorism threat comes from white supremacists, anti-government militias and a handful of individuals associated with the 'boogaloo' movement that are attempting to create a civil war in the United States."[19]

The CSIS database was updated in October 2020 to include the suspected killing of Aaron Danielson by Michael Reinoehl.[260] In September 2020, when the investigation was still ongoing, Brian Levin said that if Reinoehl was implicated, it would mark the first case in recent history of an antifa supporter being charged with homicide.[261] Reinoehl was charged by Portland police with second-degree murder and was later was shot and killed by a federally led fugitive task force near Lacey, Washington.[262][263] Reinoehl was not associated with Rose City Antifa or the Portland-based anti-fascist organization Popular Mobilization.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

In June 2020, the think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) assembled a database of 893 terrorism incidents in the United States beginning in 1994.[19][58][259] An analysis of the database conducted by The Guardian in July 2020 found no murders linked to antifa or anti-fascism since 1994. According to The Guardian, the only death resulting from an anti-fascist attack recorded in the database was that of Willem van Spronsen, who was shot dead by police while allegedly firebombing a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention center in Tacoma, Washington. In contrast, the study highlighted the fact that 329 people were killed by American white supremacists or other right-wing extremists during the same period. The Guardian quoted Heidi Beirich, a co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, as saying that "Antifa is not going around murdering people like rightwing extremists are. It's a false equivalence. I've at times been critical of antifa for getting into fights with Nazis at rallies and that kind of violence, but I can't think of one case in which an antifa person was accused of murder." Seth Jones, a counter-terrorism expert who led the creation of the CSIS's database, told The Guardian that "[l]eftwing violence has not been a major terrorism threat" and that "the most significant domestic terrorism threat comes from white supremacists, anti-government militias and a handful of individuals associated with the 'boogaloo' movement that are attempting to create a civil war in the United States."[19]

The CSIS database was updated in October 2020 to include the suspected killing of Aaron Danielson by Michael Reinoehl.[260] In September 2020, when the investigation was still ongoing, Brian Levin said that if Reinoehl was implicated, it would mark the first case in recent history of an antifa supporter being charged with homicide.[261] Reinoehl was charged by Portland police with second-degree murder and was later was shot and killed by a federally led fugitive task force near Lacey, Washington.[262][263] Reinoehl was not associated with Rose City Antifa or the Portland-based anti-fascist organization Popular Mobilization.
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"The Guardian in July 2020 found no murders linked to antifa or anti-fascism since 1994."

5 Dallas cops killed at a BLM rally by a shooter who admitted he hwas mad that cops routinely kill black men (which side spews that bile, remind me?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_s...olice_officers

NOBODY was murdered during the ANTIFA riots of 2020? Not one person?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"The Guardian in July 2020 found no murders linked to antifa or anti-fascism since 1994."

5 Dallas cops killed at a BLM rally by a shooter who admitted he hwas mad that cops routinely kill black men (which side spews that bile, remind me?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_s...olice_officers

NOBODY was murdered during the ANTIFA riots of 2020? Not one person?

Now race riots are Antifa?

Following the murder of Floyd, unrest broke out in the Minneapolis–Saint Paul area on May 26, and quickly spread across the country and the world. Polls have estimated that between 15 million and 26 million people have participated at some point in the demonstrations in the United States, making them the LARGEST protests in United States history. It was also estimated that between May 26 and August 22, around 93% of protests were "peaceful and nondestructive". According to several studies and analyses, protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful.

So of the roughly 20 MILLION protesters, 14,000 were arrested, 19 people died and between 400 and 2000 police officers and a unknown number of civilians were injured.

Tell me how Trumplicans support our men and women in uniform — unless you’re a Capitol Police officer, a veteran exposed to burn pits, or a police officer having to face teenagers with AR-15s, or an FBI agent, or . . .
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[PaulS]

It seems like you care enough to respond to pretty much every post.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It seems like you care enough to respond to pretty much every post.

i care about pointing out lies. Not one person here cares what you think about me. Not a one.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i care about pointing out lies. Not one person here cares what you think about me. Not a one.
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How did I lie?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How did I lie?

Quite simply, in Jim’s world everything is black and white and all truth is known by Jim, therefore if you disagree you are lying.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Quite simply, in Jim’s world everything is black and white and all truth is known by Jim, therefore if you disagree you are lying.
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no, you could fill the oceans with what i don’t know.

What i do know, is that if you assume people making threats against the. FBI are right wing nuts, but deny that BLM/antifa thugs are left wing nuts, then you’re an unserious, partisan hack.

Pete, we can’t all be as tolerant of
differing opinions as you clearly are. Right?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How did I lie?

you implied that the threats against the FBI are from the right ( a very logical assumption, obviously) but deny that BLM/antifa thugs are left wing extremists. Ridiculous.
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[Got Stripers]

Tough week for the orange man, FBI raid and then having to sit for eight hours and take the fifth 440 times, I’m sure his team is working on some new catchy hat slogans because you can never have enough clever ways to cash grab from the faithful fools.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Tough week for the orange man, FBI raid and then having to sit for eight hours and take the fifth 440 times, I’m sure his team is working on some new catchy hat slogans because you can never have enough clever ways to cash grab from the faithful fools.

I saw a picture of him with a new red hat, had a 5 on it.

Realize Trump would like to know who revealed the documents and their locations. However, he does not want anyone to know details of the warrant because that would kill the current fundraising campaign.
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[Pete F.]

Attack on the FBI building in Cincinnati:
Interstate I71 North is shut down after suspect drove toward Waynesville Ohio. Unconfirmed reports say he’s now firing at police from a corn field.

Meanwhile Marjorie Taylor Greene released an ad for her new line of “enemy of the state” t-shirts and hats targeting the FBI.

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Attack on the FBI building in Cincinnati:
Interstate I71 North is shut down after suspect drove toward Waynesville Ohio. Unconfirmed reports say he’s now firing at police from a corn field.

Meanwhile Marjorie Taylor Greene released an ad for her new line of “enemy of the state” t-shirts and hats targeting the FBI.

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that violence is disgusting. i can readily admit that.

but when pro abortion groups release the names and addresses of the school that judge amy barrett’s kids attend,,you’re silent.

when the left publishes judges home addresses, and someone shows up to kill one of them,,you have nothing to say.

because it’s ok when the left does it.
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[Got Stripers]

Sorry Jim your the stupid one who for some crazed right of the road mindset, thinks anyone left of center or liberal is anti cop or thinks cops are racist. Now had you said most left of center, some right of center and all liberals, think there are a lot of racists hiding behind badges, well then I’d agree with you.