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04-09-2019, 06:41 PM
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wdmso said that obama
didn’t separate kids from parents. false.
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Use your brain.
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04-09-2019, 07:52 PM
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Use your brain.
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a cowardly, unsubstantiated insult? get outa here, so
unlike you.
i posted a link, stating that obama separated kids from parents.
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04-10-2019, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
a cowardly, unsubstantiated insult? get outa here, so
unlike you.
i posted a link, stating that obama separated kids from parents.
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Yes, you did. In the cases the politico article outlines.
https://images.app.goo.gl/7cJgC4P2UrWaXpYV9
Can you admit trump vastly increased the use of this policy?
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-10-2019, 07:03 AM
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In Jim's world they are the same thing . And he clearly believes Trump at all times.
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President Obama separated children. They had child separation; I was the one that changed it," Trump said. Trump made the comments during a photo op
It was then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions who instituted the "zero tolerance" policy at the Southern border in April 2018, which resulted in children being separated from their parents who were taken into custody for criminal prosecution.
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04-10-2019, 07:54 AM
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In Jim's world they are the same thing . And he clearly believes Trump at all times.
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President Obama separated children. They had child separation; I was the one that changed it," Trump said. Trump made the comments during a photo op
It was then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions who instituted the "zero tolerance" policy at the Southern border in April 2018, which resulted in children being separated from their parents who were taken into custody for criminal prosecution.
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read your post. you claimed obama didn’t separate kids from parents. that’s not true, it’s demonstrably false. that’s all i was responding to.
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04-10-2019, 07:52 AM
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i refer you to post #9, where i say explicitly that obama didn’t do it nearly on the same scale..
now, can you admit that obama separated kids from parents at the border? and that he got no criticism for it? it only became shameful when trump did it. and no one said the issue was how frequently trump was doing it ( is there an acceptable number of times to do it?), only that he was doing it.
Trump Derangement Syndrome, in all its glory.
the arrival of huge numbers of children at the border is a new thing: itbused to be that 90% of illegals were single males. not anymore. we don’t have anywhere NEAR the infrastructure to deal with it.
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04-10-2019, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i refer you to post #9, where i say explicitly that obama didn’t do it nearly on the same scale..
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Sorry, I missed that.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
now, can you admit that obama separated kids from parents at the border? and that he got no criticism for it? it only became shameful when trump did it. and no one said the issue was how frequently trump was doing it ( is there an acceptable number of times to do it?), only that he was doing it.
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Yes, but again, this was done when the parents were being charged with a serious crime OR it was suspected trafficking. Not as a 'deterrent' as Trump so proudly admitted.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the arrival of huge numbers of children at the border is a new thing: itbused to be that 90% of illegals were single males. not anymore. we don’t have anywhere NEAR the infrastructure to deal with it.
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Agreed, but I don't think the answer to this is to separate families and put kids in dog kennels.
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-10-2019, 10:49 AM
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Sorry, I missed that.
Yes, but again, this was done when the parents were being charged with a serious crime OR it was suspected trafficking. Not as a 'deterrent' as Trump so proudly admitted.
Agreed, but I don't think the answer to this is to separate families and put kids in dog kennels.
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dog kennels aren’t ideal. but we also know for a fact that some of the “families” are using rented kids to appear as a family, to exploit our laws. How the hell do you respond to that?
it’s a mess. it’s a mess becuse. the snugglers know that if children are present, the group had a much better chance of staying.
a huge, huge mess. one side denies there’s even an issue.
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